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Wrong. They’re all obsolete. The most effective tank on the modern battlefield is the one with the $100 in scrap angle iron and sheet metal “turtle tank” upgrade. The Russians do the upgrade on the battlefield, General Dynamics can pull the Abrams back to Lima, Ohio where the nine month scrap metal upgrade costs $3.5 million per tank.

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1 posted on 05/11/2024 6:13:02 AM PDT by hardspunned
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The Ukrainians recently pulled all of the M1 Abrams tanks — a gift extorted from the American taxpayer — off the front line, saying they were “weak and vulnerable.”


2 posted on 05/11/2024 7:12:53 AM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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MBTs can still be effective if used correctly, but everyone is scrambling to figure out the new doctrine.

The author starts by praising the T-14 Armada, which isn't in service and doesn't actually exist as a viable weapon since it was a Russian propaganda/ grift program. I didn't bother reading after that.

3 posted on 05/11/2024 7:16:55 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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Drones rule. A$500 drone can destroy a $3 million dollar tank easily.


9 posted on 05/11/2024 7:45:40 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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General Dynamics can pull the Abrams back to Lima, Ohio where the nine month scrap metal upgrade costs $3.5 million per tank.

Perfectly said.

10 posted on 05/11/2024 7:52:00 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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The T90M is supposed to be the best Russian tank in production. Vlad V. Putin claims it is unstoppable. 45 of which have been destroyed in UKR.

The largest type of Russian tank, out of the 2000 destroyed, is the T-72 in all its varieties.


11 posted on 05/11/2024 7:54:01 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Huh? The M-1 Abrams is not the modern Abrams. It is is the in-storage European stockpile surplus. That model was first rolled out in 1995.
These tanks do not have modern armor. They have tungston armor. No modern electronics are in them

So, any badmouthing of the M-1 is because they aren’t aware that these are export older models that were sitting in storage. Same name, same look, but not the same tank.

The Ukranians were used to Russian tanks, not western ones. They weren’t raised in them like the US military. How much loss is due to that and using them in the Russian tank doctrine?

Finally, T-72? The older M-1 used the T-72 as target practice in the Iraq wars. What updates they have undergone I wouldn’t know. So I wouldn’t be so down on giving these tanks to Ukraine. Give them more. They are just paperweights in parking lots as is. The more we give the Ukrainians the more we drain the actual threat to the West.

We spent 7 trillion dollars in the cold war. Stopping them this time with used “cars” seems like a deal.


13 posted on 05/11/2024 8:11:36 AM PDT by Eastern Shore Virginian (Yea, I sometimes gild the lily.)
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An M-1 commander from Fort Riley attended our church before being transferred. I asked him one day what possible opposing tank would be the biggest threat to the Abrams and he immediately answered the Israeli Merkava.


16 posted on 05/11/2024 10:06:39 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Re-elect Donald Trump - AGAIN)
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In 5 years, the best tank will be a remote controlled tank with AI that is cheap to make and expendable.


17 posted on 05/11/2024 1:18:34 PM PDT by Brilliant
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The Challenger Mark II is overrated, the M-1 Abrams is second place to the T-72, the T-72 is the best MBT in the world?

Who is this guy?

"Brandon J. Weichert, a National Interest national security analyst, is a former Congressional staffer and geopolitical analyst who is a contributor at The Washington Times, the Asia Times, and The-Pipeline. He is the author of Winning Space: How America Remains a Superpower, Biohacked: China’s Race to Control Life, and The Shadow War: Iran’s Quest for Supremacy. His next book, A Disaster of Our Own Making: How the West Lost Ukraine, is due October 22 from Encounter Books. Weichert can be followed via Twitter @WeTheBrandon."
Looking through his back articles at the National Interest, I smell a political grifter pandering to the Trump vote. (¬_¬)
19 posted on 05/11/2024 7:55:44 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 🛇 CCCP 2.0 🛇)
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