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To: Gaffer; nickcarraway; All
Thank you for posting Gaffer and nickcarraway.

"The ONLY document that is relevant is the United States Constitution and/or the USSC’s interpretation of it."


Respectfully Gaffer, noting that the Constitution doesn't say much about international law, Justice John Jay had also clarified that the Laws of Nations (international law) is a founding law like the Constitution is.

Excerpted from the writings of Chief Justice John Jay:

"That you may percieve more clearly the Extent and objects of your Inquiries, it may be proper to observe that the Laws of the united States admit of being classed under three Heads or3 Descriptions—
"1st. all Treaties made under the authority of the united States.

2dly. The Laws of nations [emphasis added]

3dly. The Constitution, and Statutes of the united States—"

John Jay’s Charge to the Grand Jury, the Circuit Court for the District of Virginia, 22 May 1793

So regardless that media led us to believe that Laws of Nations in Constitution is a mystery (my word) in the context of Obama's questionable qualification to be president, first Chief Justice John Jay left us a paper trail from the Constitution to the Laws of Nations imo.

10 posted on 05/06/2024 3:00:08 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

Yes indeed. The 13 original colonies which then became independent sovereign nation states needed to look to the Law of Nations of Principles of Natural Law for guidance in order to find the common ground principles to more perfectly unite them as independent and sovereign states under the new federal Constitution to which they assigned the new federal government limited powers. The Law of Nations is even mentioned in the Constitution in Article I, Section 8. People seem to forget that the 13 colonies upon their declaration of independence from Great Britain were independent and sovereign states.

Each of those original sovereign nation states was a foreign power to each other until they voluntarily joined together for self-defense - originally via the Articles of Confederation and then in 1787 wrote a new contract to unite them and create a more perfect union. And they definitely looked to the Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law (in particular Vattel’s legal treatise on that subject at that time - especially the 1775 edition copies sent to Benjamin Franklin by Dumas) for help in writing the new federal contract.

And they provided a way to amendment it if needed in the future. If some part of it, or term’s in it original intent, meaning, and understanding by the founders and framers does not suit the nation as now advocated by the modern political parties - both of them - and their progressive language manipulation tendencies, then they should use the method to change the term, that is a Constitutional Amendment as laid out in Article V.

However all attempts in Congress to do so (see section 5 at this link: https://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html ) could not get any transaction because they knew the national security implications and purpose of the “natural born Citizen” term for Presidential Eligibility would ultimately stop such an amendment from getting ratified by the states. They knew that once the amendment was widely, openly, and publicly discussed even if could get passed by Congress with a 2/3 majority, and then brought to the several States for ratification by 3/4th of the states, that it would not succeed. People would say they don’t want to allow dual-Citizens at birth to be allowed to gain command of our military forces, once that became obviously clear to the electorate of the several states.

So they quickly gave up and chose the mode of language manipulation and deception with the help of the enabling press in the 2008 election cycle to fool the vast majority of the electorate. And with the powerful high-tech companies censor and shadow ban people trying to get the truth out about the original intent and meaning of the “natural born Citizen” (”nbC”) term in the presidential eligibility clause. And while the progressives in the Repub Party thought McCain would easily win, instead we got the anti-American “hope and change” Obama who was born a British Subject and a Islamic Marxist, like his father who he wrote about in his book, “Dreams From My Father”.

See this blast from the past as to how this constitutional subversion of the “nbC” term was all planned by the deep state operatives of both major political parties in the years leading up to and including 2008: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2024/01/26/blast-from-the-past-14-years-ago-i-believe-the-fix-was-in-for-the-2008-election-and-the-cover-up-is-still-going-strong-the-perfect-storm-for-a-constitutional-crisis/


11 posted on 05/06/2024 3:58:11 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner ( retired military officer, natural law, Vattel, presidential, eligibility, natural born Citizen )
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