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To: Mark17
Yeah, I'm quite aware of this when I wrute. I use the term {the Jesus of the Bible." But even that might be a good enough description, as you say.

The Apstle Paul speaks of such a situation in 2 Cor. 11:3-4:

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another* Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another"" spirit, which ye have not received, or another"" gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
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Notes:
* = ἄλλος = another of the same kind
** = ἕτερος = another of a different kind
Another Jesus of the same kind is one that saves only through a church, or by water baptism; or whose salvation is incomplete and depends on whether or not you can keep it, or whose mother had no other children.

Another Jesus of a different kind is a Jesus whose brother is Satan, or one who is a god but not The God and is of the same substance as and a manifestation of the Triune Godhead.

A gospel of a different kind is, for instance, a narrative in which you have to earn your way to heaven, or one in which after you have been saved, you can lose it by not keeping on "believing" or not being good; or that there is a second chance after physical death.

And there all kinds of spirits that are not the Holy Ghost that guides the true children of God, but directs their attention elsewhere, or gives you more scripture to rely on more than the canons of the Old and New Testaments.

At least, that is the way I have been taught and see the situation.

83 posted on 05/06/2024 8:30:14 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: imardmd1

Thanks bro.


84 posted on 05/06/2024 9:55:26 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of Air Force pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: imardmd1

I do not disagree with your interpretation. Discernment of those various types of “spirits” only comes with the help of the Holy Spirit.

I’ve been there many times in doing exorcisms and spirit releasement. Only the Light of the Holy Spirit shown upon them will reveal the true nature of an imposter spirit.

That is why I have often stated that it is not me, but the Holy Spirit in me that actually does the work. To think otherwise is to fool myself.

Like Paul, my own thoughts and feelings get in the way of the Holy Spirit and create error. When this happens in a critical situation, the accuracy of my uttered words are tested and failure results, causing me again to step aside and to trust the Holy Spirit to guide me. My errors, or learning experiences cause me to get stung and in great despair and physical pain, turn to the true strength of my Father flowing through me make corrections and rescue my poor soul.

My words to mom were merely using the same technique used by Jesus many times to refute the Pharisees, i.e. to point out their hypocracy.


86 posted on 05/06/2024 11:16:36 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: imardmd1

An imposter spirit will never invite you to pray for it.

An imposter spirit will never radiate the Love & Light of the Holy Spirit.

I have had demonic spirits imitate the Light in words, but like the moon, they are merely reflecting the Light and not radiating it.

When you shine the Light of the Holy Spirit upon them, they hiss and growl, then the aggressive sounds change to screams of despair and begging for mercy, trying to get you to let them go. This is where you sort the unclean spirits from the demonic, as unclean spirits are merely misguided and are redeemable, while demonic spirits are not redeemable. They can be driven out, but not redeemed.


88 posted on 05/06/2024 11:28:34 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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