Posted on 04/30/2024 8:23:30 PM PDT by Libloather
Anyone buying a used EV needs to have their HEAD EXAMINED. Same for a new one, for that matter.
Well duh.
They just figured this out now? Anyone with half a dozen functioning brain cells and has owned a cell phone and watched the lithium ion battery capacity fade away saw this years ago.
Until someone comes up with the wallmart of battery sales and works on volume over profit margin there will be no relief in battery buying whether old or new.
There are a number of companies out there selling to car makers that are generating a huge margin at this point even before the feds make everyone go into them.
Here’s a site that may give you a stomach ache:
https://www.thomasnet.com/articles/top-suppliers/ev-battery-manufacturers-companies/
wy69
“Experts said that the average EV battery guarantee lasts just eight years. After this time, the battery may lose power more quickly and so reduce mileage between charges.”
Tesla data shows that after the first year the capacity loss slows.
“Many EVs will lose up to 12 per cent of their charge capacity by six years. Some may lose even more.”
Tesla data shows that the batteries retain 90% capacity after 200,000 miles.
And that data is for older tech batteries.
Poor people who are desperate will probably be falling for these old cars in coming years, they’ll look good and seem good and will be selling cheap.
Upscale people got the incentives and won’t have to deal with the waste and the problems.
I am not interested in electric cars, and do not like them being subsidized.
I also don’t like the idea of throwing away a perfectly good car body, seats, electric motor, etc. because the battery os no good.
People rebuild car engines, and depending on the engine save a lot of money over throwing in a new one. Same with transmissions. Is it possible that we could eventually see a market for reconditioned batteries, or batteries made with something other than Li-ion to get a few more years out of that Tesla or Leaf for not quite so much money?
It won’t be for me. Our 2018 Toyota Avalon is the newest car we will ever own (unless my wife buys something after I die). But just to avoid throwing away perfectly good motors and car bodies.
Free Batteries for all!
Jao promised.
Where’s the fraction that catch on fire?
It is not their concern when they force us to do what they want.
“In some cases, the cost of a replacement battery is as much as £40,000. For certain EVs, the cost of replacing the battery could be ten times the value of the vehicle itself on the second-hand market.”
As Tesla ramps up production of the Model 3 and constantly works to improve their battery design, it’s quite possible that the prices will fall dramatically in the next few years. For now, our lowest out-of-pocket cost estimate for uncomplicated battery replacement on a Model 3 is approximately $13,000 (assuming $12,000 for the battery alone, $100 for the miscellaneous parts, and $500 for labor).
https://www.findmyelectric.com/blog/tesla-battery-replacement-cost-explained/
“Where’s the fraction that catch on fire?”
Smaller than the fraction of ICE vehicles that catch on fire.
“I also don’t like the idea of throwing away a perfectly good car body, seats, electric motor, etc. because the battery os no good.”
Where did you get that notion?
It is also very difficult, time consuming, and potentially impossible to check a used battery for defects. Even hiring an expert mechanic to check out a used car ahead of time is no guarantee of quality.
Well then Tesla is full of crap because batteries are not just about miles they are about the number of years since they were made. Even a battery that was never used will expire in a number of years. So basing battery life only on miles is deceptive at best.
Does anyone actually believe that Tesla propaganda (other than you and the other fan boys)?
they’re a one owner disposable car...
Not guaranteed? Neither are solar panels. In the 20 years it takes to pay them off the only guarantee is the solar companies will get paid. /they only sell to home owners. Pretty smart.
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