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To: woodpusher

If the Nazis and Commies killed each other off, while we stayed out, we would have been the winners.


200 posted on 04/29/2024 7:57:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
If the Nazis and Commies killed each other off, while we stayed out, we would have been the winners.

We were winners and the Nazis and Russians killed a lot of each other. We became the world leader and just look at where all we have military bases. The EU acts like our b. Some of them are like vassal states. If we demand, they will institute sanctions that cripple their own economy. If we blow up a valuable pipeline, they will investigate with no result. The EU is still in the Articles of Confederation stage but nearing the Constitution when it will be something like the United States of Germany.

The Germans killed about 25 MILLION Russians. And the Russians kept coming until they had destroyed the German army.

https://www.worldwar2facts.org/siege-of-leningrad.html#siege-of-leningrad-losses

Siege of Leningrad Losses

Red Army:

1,017,881 killed, captured or missing

2,418,185 wounded and sick

Civilians:

642,000 during the siege, 400,000 at evacuations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union

World War II losses of the Soviet Union were about 27,000,000, both civilian and military from all war-related causes, although exact figures are disputed. A figure of 20 million was considered official during the Soviet era. The post-Soviet government of Russia puts the Soviet war losses at 26.6 million, on the basis of the 1993 study by the Russian Academy of Sciences, including people dying as a result of effects of the war. This includes 8,668,400 military deaths as calculated by the Russian Ministry of Defence.

The figures published by the Russian Ministry of Defence have been accepted by most historians outside Russia. However, the official figure of 8.7 million military deaths has been disputed by Russian scholars who believe that the number of dead and missing POWs is not correct and new research is necessary to determine actual losses. Officials at the Russian Central Defense Ministry Archive (CDMA) maintain that their database lists the names of roughly 14 million dead and missing service personnel. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev stated in 2009 that more than 2.4 million people are still officially considered missing in action, and that of the 9.5 million persons buried in mass graves, six million are unidentified. Some Russian scholars put the total number of losses in the war, both civilian and military, at over 40 million. In 2020, Mikhail Meltyukhov, who works with the Russian Federal archival project, claimed that 15.9–17.4 million civilians were killed on Soviet territory by Germany and its allies during the war.


204 posted on 04/29/2024 11:02:14 AM PDT by woodpusher
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