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1 posted on 04/07/2024 11:43:00 AM PDT by george76
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The results of the trial show that an estimated 1 in 6 cancers found by the single PSA screening were overdiagnosed.


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2 posted on 04/07/2024 11:47:33 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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You know your body best?
Yeah but I knew lots of people with no symptoms until it had spread.
They say 1 in 6 cancer diagnosed were wrong. I’d rather not be one of the 5 without the test.


3 posted on 04/07/2024 11:50:30 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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https://www.healthday.com/health-news/men-health/psa-test-a-thing-of-the-past-518850.html

https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?id=GALE%7CA169431242&sid=sitemap&v=2.1&it=r&p=HRCA&sw=w&userGroupName=anon%7Ea26ca40b&aty=open-web-entry

“The prostate-specific antigen (PSA) test is not reliable as a screening tool for cancer, Thomas A. Stamey, M.D., of Stanford University, who first developed the test in 1987, says in the October issue of the Journal of Urology.”


5 posted on 04/07/2024 12:00:43 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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OK, so what do we do? I get bloodwork done every year for my thyroid and they always run a PSA test.


6 posted on 04/07/2024 12:15:52 PM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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I knew it.

Best thing guys can do is take all necessary action to eliminate inflammation.


9 posted on 04/07/2024 12:31:36 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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The VA started the PSA tests every 5 years or so when I was about 40 due to my previous AO exposure. When I was 60, I wanted to get a life insurance policy for my new family.

USAA would insure me, but they doubled the premium because my PSA was around 5 or 6 by then. Over the next 10 years it continued to go up with doing yearly or so PSA’s, and a few MRI’s and biopsies and it got to 20 when I was 70.

The VA and I agreed it was probably time to do something so I did four months of radiation treatments, and the PSA is now down to 0.15 and they will do something when it comes back, but something else may kill me before then. I did have some side effects from the radiation but nothing to serious...


11 posted on 04/07/2024 12:36:13 PM PDT by montanajoe ( )
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Should a trans man get a PSA test or a pregnancy test? And is a trans man really a woman or really a man? I am having a hard time keeping all of this “straight”, so to speak.


13 posted on 04/07/2024 1:08:40 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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My doctor has never ordered a PSA test nor has he ever stuck his finger up my bum to see if my prostate is enlarged. I do sometimes have a bit of trouble urinating. But not sure if the PSA is worth it.


16 posted on 04/07/2024 1:20:27 PM PDT by jimwatx
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PSA is just an initial warning, a call to follow up with biopsy, MRI, and any other method of actually detecting cancer.

This sounds a little like misinformation by just saying that a PSA screening is the only way. The wise consumer works with a good urologist.


22 posted on 04/07/2024 2:40:52 PM PDT by DPMD (ua)
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The V.A. knew this many years ago and stopped giving the tests as mandatory.
(They still do recommend it if you are being tested for prostate troubles)

Also, here from 2014

https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/when-is-it-time-to-stop-being-checked-for-prostate-cancer

anecdotally, I have a friend that was concerned about his rate of growth of PSA results even though the test was well within “acceptable” limits. Turns out he had prostate cancer and caught it in time. That was about 20 years ago.

I'm guessing most men, if they live long enough, will have some sort of prostate trouble.

24 posted on 04/07/2024 2:52:08 PM PDT by stylin19a (Why does "slow down" and "slow up" mean the same thing?)
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My prostate cancer was found too late.

The premise and the article are BS put forth by insurance companies and government looking to cut costs.


26 posted on 04/07/2024 3:03:05 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Last fall at my annual physical, my doctor noticed that my PSA was around 6.3. He sent me to a urologist, who did an MRI and then a biopsy. Sure enough, the biopsy showed that I do have prostate cancer. If I were not for the PSA task, it is not likely that the diagnosis could’ve been made. They may not be perfect, but in the absence of anything else, they appear to be useful

I am currently in the process of figuring out which type of treatment to get. I am leaning toward a photon therapy offered by Fred Hutchinson in Seattle. I know two people who have been treated successfully with that therapy. The good thing about it is that the protons used to attack the tumor stop at the tumor and do not exit the other side. Therefore, the healthy cells are not affected.

Prayer would be appreciated!


27 posted on 04/07/2024 5:15:35 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist .)
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