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To: mikelets456
How’s that going for you-—because laws on rape and murder stopped happening when we made laws. It happened a lot less when we were a moral society. Laws didn’t slow down rape and immorality, societal norms and accountability to God did.

Wrong, and which supports abolishing such, contrast to Scripture. Laws did and do deter down rape and immorality, conversely, laws that penalize dissent from PC deter the latter. But laws only most effectively morally work when they flow from a government and a populace that supports traditional universal Biblical moral laws, leaving outlaws to be the minority.

While the latter become the majority due to the moral declension of the heart, yet this does not invalidate the function of laws, from noise ordinances to murder. For as enforced, they serve to control, if not convert, the rebellious. They police are usually called upon an assaulter.

When man is not rightly controlled from within by God and sound conscience then he musty be controlled from without. The function of the church is to foster the former, while to the state is the just use of the sword of man upon those who do not act consistent with God and conscience.

And the Bible supports moral laws:

Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: (1 Peter 2:13-15)

However, when the people fall away from the Lord and elect liberal lawmakers, then the latter persecute the Godly, and iniquity increases.

In short, both formation of Godly character as well as laws that punish unGodly actions are correct, but both are to work together.

58 posted on 04/04/2024 11:17:59 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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Good information and thanks——That verse is correct. We are to follow the laws of the land UNLESS they go against God.

Was I really that unclear about legislating morality? Am I that off base going against the belief that we feel the more government creates law the more moral we become? Please-—I am for laws against murder, arson, rape, stealing, etc....it’s these other laws(listed below) that I mean by legislating “morality” or “being courteous”. This is where I have a problem. So please, for the last time, I’m not talking about murder and such-—so please.

I guess I’m looking at it as wicked people-—which we all are-—and only through Christ with a changed heart will we grow closer to being a more moral society. All of these little laws won’t change it-—let me make myself clear again. I’m not stating we shouldn’t have laws against murder, rape, coveting, stealing, etc.

I’m talking about laws like this in FL——Or the laws of don’t hold your phone while driving. I don’t do it because I know it’s dangerous. How about laws about people in crosswalks allowing them to cross-—as a society we USED to let the person cross because we knew it was the right thing to do....now it was made law because some politician wanted to get re-elected. We held a door open for people, we thought of others as more important than ourselves-—we had respect for the elderly and police and firemen-—not because of any laws because we simply did. This is what I mean that we can’t legislate “morality”-—
I’m wrong for not explaining on little stuff like I mentioned above-—do we really need laws to hold a door open? Do we need laws to not say offensive things? Do we need laws to guide us through the internet? I’m standing on this as NO-—Maybe my terminology is incorrect because eventually laws “legislating morality” eventually turn into laws simply for revenue.


64 posted on 04/04/2024 11:58:44 AM PDT by mikelets456
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