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To: Repeat Offender
Uh huh. Another "expert" strikes again. You been in any wars? I have and no, we didn't "fight for TV": we fought hard and well, only to be betrayed at home by the enemy sympathizer Left and draft avoiding cowards.

There are two major parts to any war - the ground fight and the soul of the fight. To win, you need both and as long as the IDF makes no distinction between civilians and their real enemies, they will continue to lose ground.

31 posted on 04/01/2024 2:59:18 PM PDT by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: Chainmail; Repeat Offender
...as long as the IDF makes no distinction between civilians and their real enemies, they will continue to lose ground.

What are you talking about? The civilian losses in Gaza has been the lowest ever in an urban warfare setting. Here is a piece quoting Col John Spencer, Chair of Urban Warfare Studies:

West Point Urban Warfare Expert: IDF ‘Implemented More Measures to Prevent Civilian Casualties Than Any Other Military in History’

33 posted on 04/02/2024 1:55:27 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Chainmail
I have five campaigns across 4 deployments and am a PH recipient. I wasn’t an officer either…I was a 240gunner through Phantom Fury, and two more deployments to Ramadi after I was wounded…I saw first hand the difference between open warfare and pansy ass ROEs with our hearts and minds campaign. I also saw first hand how eager everyone was to avoid hitting targets while the enemy refit. While Marines saw people digging in the road but couldn’t engage because they didn’t see the actual IED at 400yds. Saw what appeared to be them running wire, but couldn’t engage b/c even though it looked like they were running wire, the Marines couldn’t actually see wire. Two KIA off the 155 that blew. It was no surprise when ISIS swept through the country…..except maybe to the pentagon…there’s a reason the bldg shaped like an #55hole.

I was there when investigation was launched after a Marine engaged an enemy combatant believed to be playing possum, and said “He’s dead now.” Several Marines had been killed the day before from that same tactic. The discussion of the Marines prior to engagement was edited out by NBC and played to look like murder. I was there when word spread that Marine was recalled from the front during the second largest MOUT in USMC history and investigated for ROE violations/murder. I saw first hand in my own unit what that did to morale (we found out during a res and refit).

I was there when we were taking BOLO pictures of terrorists, whom killed Marines, off the wall and handed them ID cards.

So yes - we did fight for tv and we did have garbage ROEs. Sorry if that conflicts with what they told at Command & Staff or TBS.

35 posted on 04/02/2024 2:20:27 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: Chainmail
To win, you need both and as long as the IDF makes no distinction between civilians and their real enemies, they will continue to lose ground.

The IDF is not self-sufficient so they have to appease the Americans for the time being. After the war, they need to develop their industry so they won't depend on the U.S. for their defense needs.

38 posted on 04/03/2024 9:08:37 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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