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Is ayahuasca just the same old demon worship?
The Blaze ^ | March 22, 2024 | Matt Himes

Posted on 03/26/2024 1:04:14 PM PDT by Twotone

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1 posted on 03/26/2024 1:04:14 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

His name is Legion because he is many..................


2 posted on 03/26/2024 1:08:24 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Twotone

Yeah.

Pharmakos. φάρμακος

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/φάρμακος


3 posted on 03/26/2024 1:09:34 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Twotone

The fusion of psychedelic (mind-manifesting) drugs and Marxist thought in the 60’s brought our society down, and subsequently our country.


4 posted on 03/26/2024 1:16:33 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Twotone

Ye, little sons, be of God, and ye have overcome him; for he that is in you is more, than he that is in the world.

1 John 4:4


5 posted on 03/26/2024 1:16:50 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Twotone

“...used psychoactive substances like ayahuasca to commune with otherworldly beings, from whom they claim to receive secret knowledge about the universe”

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Secret knowledge. Riiiight. *face palm*

When I was younger I might have experimented with something like this. Personally I don’t think there is anything “supernatural” about it. It’s all neurochemistry and neurology and turning off or stimulating parts of the brain that normally aren’t.

However, I think it’s silly to assign significance to it, or worse, take it as some sort of truth. These people are secular, so I wouldn’t expect them to heed this, but I’m quite sure that if God wanted to communicate with you, God knows how to look you up. So what you are ‘communing’ with is risky, at best.

But even if these were just “otherworldly beings” in a purely secular or scientific sense, why would you assume that they are beneficent, or going to offer you something for nothing?


6 posted on 03/26/2024 1:18:58 PM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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Which Marxists ?

Who Was CIA Black Sorcerer Sidney Gottlieb?

Sidney Gottlieb was known as the "Black Sorcerer" of the Central Intelligence Agency.

A brilliant chemist, Gottlieb was the driving force behind the infamous MKULTRA program, a series of covert, illegal experiments conducted by the CIA in the 1950s and 1960s.

Gottlieb was born in the Bronx in 1918 and earned a Ph.D. in biochemistry from the California Institute of Technology in 1948. After a short stint as a professor at Stanford University, Gottlieb joined the CIA in 1951.

Gottlieb quickly rose through the agency's ranks and soon became one of its most powerful and influential figures.

He was in charge of the CIA's Technical Services Division, which was responsible for the development of chemical and biological weapons, mind control drugs and other covert tactics.

As such, Gottlieb was responsible for the creation of the MKULTRA program, which aimed to study the effects of drugs and other interrogation techniques on unwitting test subjects. The program was shrouded in secrecy and Gottlieb ensured that the CIA would never be held accountable for its actions.

This Marxist Gottlieb dosed people with LSD. These darn CIA Marxists !

7 posted on 03/26/2024 1:28:41 PM PDT by OldHarbor
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“ Personally I don’t think there is anything “supernatural” about it.”

You’re right, it’s neurochemistry.

But human beings are spiritual creatures and all our experiences and thoughts (which occur via our neurochemistry) are filtered through our spiritual nature and any discombobulation of our neurochemistry will discombobulate our spiritual understanding.


8 posted on 03/26/2024 1:33:48 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Twotone

That is not the approach that Scripture advises to get close to God. Not at all.


9 posted on 03/26/2024 1:39:32 PM PDT by gitmo (If your biography doesn't match your theology, what good is it?)
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To: Twotone

In the ‘70s, Carlos Castaneda wrote about studying under a Yaqui sorcerer. He wrote of the use of the kinds of mind-altering plants that were the way into a surreal dimension.

Critics now say he made it all up. But I don’t think so.


10 posted on 03/26/2024 1:50:26 PM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: Migraine

I think he later admitted he made it all up.


11 posted on 03/26/2024 1:52:17 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: OldHarbor

Are you an idiot?

Rhetorical question.

The hippies and yippies etc et al.

And yes I know who Gottlieb is and the history of LSD and psychedelics.

There were worse ones than Gottlieb.

One example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron


12 posted on 03/26/2024 1:58:00 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: z3n

“Secret knowledge. Riiiight. *face palm*”

In shamanistic cultures with all of their ‘secret knowledge’ life remained “solitary, nasty, brutish and short’. The shamans never pointed out useful and simple things like to prevent typhus and dysentery, among other things, all one had to do is boil water.


13 posted on 03/26/2024 2:00:21 PM PDT by KamperKen (u)
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“ Critics now say he made it all up. But I don’t think so.”

Yeah, he did.

He used UCLA library.

I figure it’s not all made up.

But good stories sell and he sold a lot of books.


14 posted on 03/26/2024 2:00:35 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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15 posted on 03/26/2024 2:02:05 PM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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To: Twotone

**** but the Christian faith has long recognized these practices as risking contact with demons.***

I remember sixty years ago when liberal seminaries were urging their students to take LSD and then read the Bible to try to get a “different” meaning from it.


16 posted on 03/26/2024 2:46:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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I have worked with two different patients who used ayahuasca one time and developed schizophrenia that was permanent for life. Both were female, both were under age twenty.

I have also worked with young men who used synthetic THC which is far stronger than regular weed that resulted in schizophrenia with one time use.

I do not do drugs and never will as I see what it does to the brain.

The transcendental experience with drug use is due to the diminishing of the ego self identity. The healthy ego identity creates a structure in consciousness that limits the feminine emotional consciousness from extending beyond the limits of “self.” People with big ego identities use the drugs, have the transcendental experience, and return to normal if use is minimal.

One man I worked with was an engineer who became addicted to the high from ayahuasca, using it dozens of times in 2022. He was losing his sense of self and devrloping schizophrenia.

The two young women had not developed a self identity and the one time use blocked their ability to do so, thus locking them in schizophrenia.

The ego self identity is logical consciousness that does not have the ability to hear voices. Thus in normal teenage development, a child transitions away from emotional consciousness as the prefrontal cortex and analytical logical thought processes develop.

As it relates to demonic influences, yes, the voices a schizophrenic hears are often, but not always demonic. They create an unhealthy dependency or codependency with the schizophrenic that blocks them from developing.

The drugs do open people to demonic influence. I’ve removed them many times over the years.

The hard part is breaking the dependency the schizophrenic has upon the demonic. They do not usually want to be healed.

The success I have had with schizophrenia has been by creating a shift in dependency to religion and a relationship with Jesus. That protects the person so the demons cannot come near them.

If I were to just remove the demons, the wound is not healed and they do not stay clean.


17 posted on 03/26/2024 3:07:04 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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Timothy Leary was a follower of Aleister Crowley and said he was continuing Crowley’s work.


18 posted on 03/26/2024 4:24:07 PM PDT by winslow
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Yes.


19 posted on 03/26/2024 4:52:46 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: tired&retired

Interesting.
Thank you.


20 posted on 03/26/2024 5:13:01 PM PDT by dadgum
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