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When I read stories about the US funding the Ukraine's salaries, pensions etc. in addition to the weapons funding (north of $130 Billion), I wonder how much money the US is really providing. For example, the black ops wing of our government does not have to report funding to Congress - so no one knows how many billions we really give them.
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Ukraine War Map Shows Russian Offensive Stalling After Avdiivka Win, bimboeruption wrote:
Marcus and his zeeper pals don’t care if the taxpayers of this country are stripped of every cent they have.
According to a Feb. 2023 report by the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), we are funding the salaries of 618,000 Ukrainian educators, 517,000 health workers, and 56,500 first responders.
We are paying to sustain Ukraine’s critical healthcare services, meet its pension responsibilities for 9.8 million people, assist 1.3 million internally displaced persons, provide housing assistance to 4.1 million people, and provide social assistance to 240,000 low-income families and 480,000 persons with disabilities.
We subsidize Ukraine’s small businesses, buy seeds and fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers and fund divers who clear unexploded ammunition from the country’s rivers to make them safe again for swimming and fishing.
Americans pay to secure Ukraine’s borders while millions of welfare seeking barbarians and terrorists flood through ours.
But the only thing that matters to zeepers is “Slava Ukraini!”
It wasn't hard for Barry Sotero to just send flats of payola to Iran. If he or others want to send money there, couldn't they just use in-place 'systems' like this one (OP ) to shuttle money back and forth, bribing our officials or funding their wars.

We are paying to sustain Ukraine’s critical healthcare services, meet its pension responsibilities for 9.8 million people, assist 1.3 million internally displaced persons, provide housing assistance to 4.1 million people, and provide social assistance to 240,000 low-income families and 480,000 persons with disabilities.

We subsidize Ukraine’s small businesses, buy seeds and fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers and fund divers who clear unexploded ammunition from the country’s rivers to make them safe again for swimming and fishing.

Americans pay to secure Ukraine’s borders while millions of welfare seeking barbarians and terrorists flood through ours.

We're being taken to the cleaners...

Just imaging if there were a MAGA money transfer system that works outside of the banking system.

It would be only a vague memory now and all the participants would be in federal prison in solitary. Even if there were no fraud.

But Hawala is not run by MAGAs, and it will continue to run unhindered.

No need to conflate this Halawa network with Ukraine. It’s a very interesting process. The way it generally works is that if you want to give money to someone in Libya for example you don’t need a bank. You speak to a guy in Brooklyn who takes the money, then contacts a counterpart in Libya who gives money to the recipient. Each taking a cut of course. The Brooklyn guy guarantees payment to the Libyan associate, but the sender and recipient are both off the hook for debts. It’s an interesting way to move money around without having to literally move it immediately, or all at once. At some point the books have to balance out, but that system of trading is the basic premise.

Seems the problem here is that they used banks to move money, and lied to the banks about their business and purposes. It has traditionally been done without bank transfers and the “books” can get balanced in many ways - someone can buy a diamond ring, or pay for a container full of food to be delivered somewhere etc. It’s a way to move money and using other means, including barter, to balance everyone’s books.