[amnestynone]

In other words you are saying we should give a camouflage surrender to Putin that way he can rearm and start another war. Is that right? Proxy war neocon, Gog Magog, give me a break. The war has not gone badly and although it may still hang in the balance it has revealed Russian weakness and a victory will presumably cause Russia to rethink its aggression's. You need to pull your head out of Russia today.

[hardspunned]

No point even trying to reason with you. Waste of time.