Posted on 02/23/2024 12:27:56 PM PST by Miami Rebel
Donald Trump denounced the Alabama Supreme Court for making it “harder” for American families to have children.
The former president took to Truth Social to voice his opposition to the recent ruling that frozen embryos should be considered “children.” He called on Alabama’s state legislature to “find an immediate solution to preserve the availability of IVF in Alabama.” He wrote:
Under my leadership, the Republican Party will always support the creation of strong, thriving, healthy American families. We want to make it easier for mothers and fathers to have babies, not harder! That includes supporting the availability of fertility treatments like IVF in every State in America. Like the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of Americans, including the VAST MAJORITY of Republicans, Conservatives, Christians, and Pro-Life Americans, I strongly support the availability of IVF for couples who are trying to have a precious baby. Today, I am calling on the Alabama Legislature to act quickly to find an immediate solution to preserve the availability of IVF in Alabama. The Republican Party should always be on the side of the Miracle of Life – and the side of Mothers, Fathers, and their Beautiful Babies. IVF is an important part of that, and our Great Republican Party will always be with you, in your quest, for the ULTIMATE JOY IN LIFE!
Alabama’s Chief Justice Tom Parker invoked God and the Book of Genesis to justify the decision, writing, “Human life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God.”
Parker continued, “Even before birth, all human beings have the image of God, and their lives cannot be destroyed without effacing his glory.”
Trump has long courted the evangelical vote, winning that demographic by 60 points in 2016 and nearly 70 points four years later, according to the Pew Research Center.
Other Republicans have also spoken out against the decision. Hardline Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) said this week:
"Something is totally wrong. People who want to have a family should have the government and the law on their side. And the notion that discarded embryos in an IVF somehow turn these people who want children and want families and want the American dream into criminals is really wrong."
Trump has staunchly supported the evangelical opposition to abortion rights and appointed three conservative justices to the U.S. Supreme Court who voted in 2022 to reverse the constitutional right to abortion by a vote of 6-3. Trump took credit, claiming, “Only I was able to kill Roe vs. Wade.”
Yes, and celery in the ground is soup.
Did you bother to connect the dots?
Trump’s running for President of the U.S. means he should be very clear that it’s up to the people of the sovereign state of AL and he won’t overreach as POTUS.
Unconstitutional and totalitarian federal power overreach including power grabs over the states is BY FAR the greatest threat to our lives, freedoms, and well being.
Agreed. Also even if a person does not adhere to Catholic moral doctrine there should be concern about children becoming commodities.
You can compare people to vegetables however don’t talk to me about it. I’m busy and have no time for nonsense
So little time that you made the comment
Once they are fertilized, I think they are children.
Surely there can be a happy compromise on this. Freeze sperm and eggs but not embryos.
Once they are fertilized, I think they are children.
Surely there can be a happy compromise on this. Freeze sperm and eggs but not embryos.
Once they are fertilized, I think they are children.
Surely there can be a happy compromise on this. Freeze sperm and eggs but not embryos.
That’s not how federal power is used or abused.
I am pro-life, and believe abortion is infanticide period (doubters can search my posts here), but science shows only a fertilized egg which is also implanted in a womb is a person.
I believe the definition of an embryo is a fertilized egg, so there is no such thing as an unfertilized embryo.
But yes, an embryo (fertilized egg) often fails to implant into the uterine walls and is flushed out at the woman's next period.
Others are free to have their own opinions and beliefs, and my personal beliefs are that abortion is murder at any stage in the pregnancy, but we should be embracing IVF because it helps more babies to be born.
They aren’t in a womb.
“The feds have no constitutional authority over state law. That’s up to the people of AL”
He did refer it back to the Alabama legislature,
Are you saying that he should not have commented?
abuse
Really? Ever hear of Roe v. Wade?
Unconstitutional Federal regulation up the kazoo?
Get real.
So what’s the proper Christian view? Are we supposed to be opposed to the operations of IVF clinics?
Yes we are supposed to be opposed.
It turns children into commodities.
It results in the deaths of children.
It removes the conjugal act from reproduction.
And it leaves the abandoned embryos as orphans.
It’s abhorrent and can never be approved.
If Trump is going to use the “bully pulpit”, he should be very clear that he won’t overreach as POTUS. Otherwise, it is not clear IMO.
Again, unconstitutional and totalitarian federal power overreach including power grabs over the states is BY FAR the greatest threat to our lives, freedoms, and well being.
This is a time when state sovereignty, a key to our freedom, needs to be made very clear
Where do we draw the line at the taking of an innocent human life? If we are countenance taking the life one category of people for our own convenience and satisfaction, who is next?
As I said in another thread on this topic, when we speak of human zygotes, embryos, fetuses, babies, children, teenagers, adults, middle-aged, and old age, these are are simply descriptions of the various stages of human development. Some occur on one side of the birth canal, others on the other side. Some may be imperfect or unwanted by their parents or by society. But all are living human beings. All have an equal human dignity. None should unjustly be deprived of life.
Well I do think there is a distinction between fertilized eggs in the womb and in a test tube.
The former will naturally develop into a full human being absent active interference from from another human being.
The latter cannot unless action is taken affirmatively by another person to assist, it has no ability to develop into a human being on its own without voluntary assistance. And since that action is voluntary and not obligatory on another person. By saying its a human being means the government can compel individuals to perform an action that should be voluntary, like accepting a medical implantation of the fertilized egg. I don’t think government has that authority.
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