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To: DugwayDuke
The third, “Instead, many experts have pointed to COVID-19 itself or the refrigeration of bodies as a more likely cause of the clots observed.”, states there is evidence that the clots are caused by COVID-19 or refrigeration.

So you are telling me they only started refrigerating bodies in 2021? They didn't do that prior to 2021?

Pull the other one.

64 posted on 02/22/2024 10:37:56 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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DiogenesLamp wrote: “So you are telling me they only started refrigerating bodies in 2021? They didn’t do that prior to 2021?”

You’re overlooking the other probable cause, ie, COVID-19. See extract below.

“The third, “Instead, many experts have pointed to COVID-19 itself or the refrigeration of bodies as a more likely cause of the clots observed.”, states there is evidence that the clots are caused by COVID-19 or refrigeration.”

As stated in this link:

Photos of blood clots of unknown origin are insufficient to draw conclusions about the clots’ nature
Claims linking abnormal blood clots with COVID-19 vaccines mostly rely on anecdotes from embalmers that supposedly removed such clots from corpses. However, there is no verifiable information about when and how those samples were collected. Furthermore, it is important to keep in mind that embalming is different from conducting an autopsy.

Embalming is used to preserve bodies and prevent them from decaying. But embalmers neither take nor analyze biological samples and generally don’t have clinical information about the bodies they handle.

In contrast, an autopsy is a surgical procedure that aims to determine the cause and manner of death. The professional carrying out this procedure is a pathologist, a physician trained to perform autopsies and collect medical evidence. Taking into account the person’s clinical history, the pathologist examines the body and body tissues of deceased individuals in detail and requests any necessary laboratory tests. Based on this evidence, the pathologist can draw conclusions about why the person died.

Nikolaus Klupp, an associate professor of forensic medicine at the Medical University of Vienna, told Health Feedback in an earlier review that without a histological examination of the clots, “any conclusion would be unreliable”. Indeed, given the complexity of pathological examinations, it is clear that simply looking at a blood clot is insufficient to determine its origin and its role in the person’s death.

In fact, Klupp added that some of the blood clots looked to him “more like postmortem clots, mainly due to the color, the shape, and particularly because of the amount”. Monica Torres, a licensed embalmer in the U.S. state of Arizona, also said to AFP that “The blood clots are from refrigeration”, meaning that they formed after death. “It happens to many bodies”, she explained. Due to the large number of bodies to process, many “sat in refrigeration for long durations so they got blood clots”.

COVID-19 is much more likely to cause blood clotting than vaccination

A spokesperson from the U.S. National Funeral Directors Association explained to PolitiFact that some embalmers had indeed noticed an increase in the presence of blood clots in COVID-19-related deaths. But contrary to claims, the clots appeared in both vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Torres also told PolitiFact that blood clots were present in people who had died of COVID-19 “long before vaccinations were available”.

Since very early in the pandemic, researchers observed that COVID-19 increased the risk of VTE, particularly in patients with severe disease[4]. Later research showed that patients with moderate and even mild COVID-19 are also at a higher risk of blood clots compared to the general population[5,6]. Furthermore, this risk might remain elevated for up to one year after the infection[7].

Experts at Johns Hopkins Medicine explained that COVID-19-related clots form primarily in the lungs and large blood vessels in the legs. However, they can also affect other organs, such as the brain and kidneys, leading to stroke and kidney failure. In addition, damage to small skin vessels has been associated with rashes and so-called COVID toe, a condition that causes swelling and discoloration in one or several toes or fingers.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/photos-blood-clots-embalming-dont-show-link-with-covid-19-vaccines-blood-clotting-risk-higher-after-covid-19/

One problem. Some are so eager to prove the vaccines are worse than the virus, they jump on any narratives regardless of the source.

This isn’t the first time these blood clot reports have been posted on FR. They resurface every three or four months. Nothing new, just a repear of old unverified scare mongering.


65 posted on 02/22/2024 1:03:49 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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