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To: pierrem15
Russia gained a fraction of 1% of Ukraine in 2023 in exchange for 250K+ casualties.

Never mind that Ukraine was an the offensive most of 2023, lost about 300,000 troops (more 500,000 troops total) and Russia still gained ground.

You're literally stupid to realize Russia's goal for the last year has been destroying the Ukraine army, not gaining territory. Russia has all the territory it wanted going into this war.

And, now, the Ukrainian military is beginning to collapse along the frontlines and is on the verge of losing the key city of Avdiivka.

You're worst combination of arrogant and stupid,

133 posted on 02/15/2024 3:33:57 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Who the hell are you Russian stooge to come here calling good Americans names?
I notice you don’t answer when I alert others to you being a pig for Russia.

You’re no conservative you’re an enemy piece of garbage.


139 posted on 02/15/2024 5:45:07 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Kazan
You're a good example of invincible ignorance. Uke losses are not nearly that high, and withdrawal from Avdiivka after 4 months of relentless assault across a narrow front is hardly Stalingrad. How do you think Russian infantry was able to get in when heavy fog blocked drones? Because there were very few Ukrainian soldiers actually in the city. You squandered tens of thousands of Russian dead for a few square kilometers.

And now the Ukrainians are killing you at a ratio of 10:1 or more for every assault.

You aren't fooling anyone with the phony claim that Russia didn't want the whole country: the original plan was obviously to take Kyiv and install a puppet like Medvedchuk and then dismember the country oblast by oblast through more phony referenda presided over by Russian thugs pretending to be locals, just like in 2014.

And Avdiivka is hardly critical to Ukraine's defense: it was a salient that touched Donetsk's suburbs, meaning it was important for possible offensive operations. You gained a few kilometers for tens of thousands of casualties and the Ukrainians have suffered far fewer in Avdiivka than in Bakhmut because they have fought much more intelligently.

At this rate you'l reach Kyiv around 2200.

142 posted on 02/15/2024 6:47:38 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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