[HonkyTonkMan]

Honda going in the wrong direction. They used to make dependable, innovative vehicles, but recent designs and quality have been lacking.

Ram above "Fix Or Repair Daily" is a surprise.

[cableguymn]

Cummins helped with that.

[billorites]

In recent years I've owned 1999, 2008, 2017 and 2018 Hondas. I take them to the dealers every 7500 miles for oil changes, routine service and inspections.

They're been bullet-proof.

Equally dependable has been my 2014 Toyota Tacoma.

I believe all of these vehicles were assembled in the U.S. or Canada.

[billorites]

In defense of my BMW friends, my understanding is that every new BMW owner gets a three day course in "How to Drive Like an Asshole with their purchase.

[fini]

I think the two issues with Honda is all of the new computer junk they have to put on the car and they keep making the power train more "efficient," which means smaller engines with turbos and 9 speed transmissions.

My 2014 Honda CRV is bullet proof and had one warranty issue in the second year. The CRV has over 200K miles and does not use a lick of oil. My wife's 2020 Honda Pilot had some computer software/wiring issue at purchase, but we knew of the defect (the internet had already documented the problem and the solution) prior to purchase and the dealership got all issues worked out within two appointments. The Pilot only has 65K miles, but has had no other issues.

OBTW, my CRV has a 175HP 2 liter engine, but the new CRV has a 175 HP 1.5 liter engine with a turbo. Guess which one will need to be replaced first?