Posted on 02/11/2024 7:48:11 AM PST by V_TWIN
New heart-pounding footage shows the moment three survivors sprint free from their burning jet after it slammed onto a Florida interstate and killed two others earlier this week. The trio can be seen rushing out of the wreckage, which was covered in bright orange flames and billowing black smoke as it lay on I-75, the video shared with Local 10 News shows. “Is there anybody else in there?” Kyle Cavaliere, a passing motorist who stopped to assist, shouted at the survivors. “Yes! Our pilots! Our pilots!” a woman can be heard shouting back as her coworker incoherently rambles beside her. When asked if the pilots were alive, the frantic woman replied: “I don’t know. I don’t know much else.” Authorities said the Bombardier Challenger 600 jet — with five people on board — was trying to land at the nearby Naples airport when it spontaneously lost both engines. In a chilling audio recording of the flight, Pilot Edward Daniel Murphy calmly told an airport controller that the aircraft “was not going to make the runway” just moments before disaster.
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“spontaneously lost both engines”
How does that happen? Pilot or copilot error? Intentional? Bad fuel? Electronics failure?
While undoubtedly rare, a double bird strike is a possiblity.
I’m not saying that was it. The investigation will tell.
Yes, that’s another possibility.
Most likely fuel exhaustion.
My guesses: the plane ran out of fuel; the pilots failed or were unable to transfer or access fuel internally; or the fuel was contaminated with condensate water. My guess is that the immediate cause will be determined fairly quickly and completely, with lots of arguing to follow as to whether and how human factors contributed.
Sully would agree.
Or woman.....which is why some professions are better left to one gender or the other.
Of course having said that, I’d of undoubtedly hauled ass myself. 😏
Improperly swapped fuel tanks? Forgot to start second fuel pump? Lined up the empty(er) tank and not the full one?
You wouldn’t want to deal with any of those on final approach.
The passengers got out because they had access to a cabin door. The pilots were isolated by their location. They would have to climb out of their seats and possibly circumvent a bulkhead to get out. It is likely also, from the wreckage pictures, that the cockpit section sustained significant impact damage.
“Every man for himself, eh?”
That’s not very nice. Imagine if you had just escaped the JP4 flaming wreckage by the skin of your teeth. It’s actually a decent reply.
Not unless it was in a simulator.
That, or another case of DEI in action.
Could be. Although isn’t that part of the landing checklist?
New jets are often equipped with a system called FADEC, or Full Authority Digital Engine Control. It's essentially a computer system that controls specific engine parameters. FADEC will turn on ignition automatically in many of the cases listed above, taking some workload off the pilots. It also adds the benefit of turning on the ignition during stall warnings, when takeoff thrust is set, during approach idle, or when the engine experiences a surge.
confirmed, then.
It’s possible the cabin was locked, I suppose.
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