Posted on 01/13/2024 8:20:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind
If you wanna stay warm with your buds in the dorm,
PROPANE.
If you wanna get hot and not pay a lot,
PROPANE
It ain’t high! It ain’t high! It ain’t high!
PROPANE!..............................
“First, this winter will likely be milder than last winter.”
BWA HA HA HA HA!
Sweater.
Natural gas is the cheapest where we live.
Yeah, really. We’re 30 degrees under efficient temperature for air exchange heat pumps; you could almost hear all the systems switching over to resistance heating.
Not in Michigan. It will reach a HIGH of 6° tomorrow.
Won’t get above 0 in Minnesota tomorrow
Gas heat.
Right now, it’s natural gas.
Heat pumps down to about 35 degrees, then over to propane from there on down.
and FJB.....
National Grid is my utility company. I have a decent sized two bedroom apartment, with central air and dishwasher, electric stove and fridge I have lived here for 23 years. My utility bills are higher in the summer running the central air unit that is connected to my gas furnace in my bedroom closet. My gas and electric bill was $107.00 for November. For December, it was $137.00. This past July, the electric was $135.00, and in August, it was $176.00. Electric is more expensive.
I should have added that September’s bill was $204.00 because the air conditioner was still running. In October it went down to $163.00.
Defrost cycle on my heat pump drives me nuts at night. I drop the setting to 62 or so, then set it back up to 68 later to drive the warm, quiet gas heat on.
When below freezing, there is no way the pump is more efficient.
Using energy to produce things generates waste heat, very useful for warming a house but little else. Heating costs can be reduced by first using the energy to make something useful. For natural gas, it can be burned in a turbine to generate electricity. For copious amounts of electric heat, install a 3D metal printer and manufacture something. Just burning limited energy resources for heat is like burning money, is bad for the environment and economy.
Wood! Plus it warms you when you cut it. It warms you when you split it. It warms you when you stack it.
Gas heat gets my vote
Very confusing. I can say this. You can’t link Heating oil and K1 into one category. The price is very different.
They are pushing heat pumps as if they are the cats meow. They don’t work good in cold climates. Without some other form of heat people will freeze.
Most people had normal electric heat which runs 3x that of natural gas.
“Wood! Plus it warms you when you cut it. It warms you when you split it. It warms you when you stack it.”
It warms you when you when you jam onto your honey bunny after splitting it
Same here. I save a lot with a variable speed heat pump, supplemented with electric heat strips. It’d be cheaper to supplement with a natural gas furnace if I didn’t have solar and battery storage usually having enough charge to power the heat strips through most of the night.
During the warm half of the year I save more money by directing the cold air output from my hybrid water heater to an intake receiver of my central HVAC. This allows my variable speed heat pump to stay in low speed for more hours of the day.
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