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NATO Directorate Warned Azov Remained ‘Fanatics.’ Recruits Acquired Canadian-Made Rifles. ‘It’s true that Azov was brought into the National Guard of Ukraine, but they are fanatics.’
readthemaple.com ^ | January 4, 2024 | Alex Cosh

Posted on 01/05/2024 3:12:00 PM PST by ransomnote

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To: BobL

Go back to, oh, starting May, 2022; you’ll find a lot of FR posts from you guys heralding the destruction of Azov and the Ukrainian “nazis.” You remember, Bob.


41 posted on 01/06/2024 5:57:50 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: BobL

“You mentioned Israel, not me.”

Yeah, because Israel would have roundly condemned Ukraine if it was INFESTED (your term, your claim) with Nazis. But, it didn’t. Why is that, Bob? Perhaps because you are FOS with your claim?


42 posted on 01/06/2024 5:59:59 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: BobL

“Rehabilitate” was your claim, Bob. I merely used your word.


43 posted on 01/06/2024 6:00:44 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

“Yeah, because Israel would have roundly condemned Ukraine if it was INFESTED (your term, your claim) with Nazis. But, it didn’t. Why is that, Bob? Perhaps because you are FOS with your claim?”

Either that, or Israel is HIGHLY DEPENDENT on US arms, so there might be limits as to what they’ll say.

I know the above is complicated, but others here will understand it.


44 posted on 01/06/2024 6:02:51 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: ought-six; ransomnote

Ought six, Why are you trying to restart old fights about Q, which are no longer relevant in 2023 ?

As for you trying to trying to use Regime-approved “fact-checkers” to whitewash some of the unsavory elements of the Ukraine State: everyone realized the nature of AZOV and the Ukrainian National Guard until this war started, when they were Woke-washed.

Personally, I don’t care about who is supposedly the “Nazi”. Because that is just an “official bad guy” category created by the Left.

But I don’t cover up history. For example I don’t deny either the Holodomor, or Katyn Forest, but isn’t relevant to the fact that NATO caused and extends this war.


45 posted on 01/06/2024 6:06:40 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: ought-six

Denial is a NOT a river.


46 posted on 01/06/2024 6:07:04 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: ought-six

 

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled NATO Directorate Warned Azov Remained ‘Fanatics.’ Recruits Acquired Canadian-Made Rifles. ‘It’s true that Azov was brought into the National Guard of Ukraine, but they are fanatics.’, ought-six wrote:

Nice try, Q-boi. You can’t provide any links to support your claim, because there are none. You’re a blowhard, Q-boi; and a fantasist, just like your conspiracy-theorist hero.

Or; are YOU QAnon?

The first FR thread you started was on 1/16/2018, and was about…you guessed it! QAnon! And, QAnon was apparently created at the end of October, 2017; just about six weeks before your first thread (which, as I said above, was about QAnon).

Coincidence?

Your ENTIRE thread archive – from January, 2018 to about two weeks ago – or, basically SIX YEARS of threads — is exclusively about Q and “Q Days.”

Coincidence?

If you’re not Q, you could pass as his (or her) press agent or publicist.

I've posted 6,107 threads on FR; less than 12% of them are Q content. You have never posted a thread to FR.

Somehow you 'accidentally' missed ALL my political, Covid and Covid vax threads and Ukraine threads entirely, for years.

First FR thread I posted starting in 2008.

You sure lie and whine alot, for a guy who never bothered to post a single thread to FR. How did you become so self-important while contributing so little?


47 posted on 01/06/2024 6:12:48 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: BobL

Bob, you said Ukraine is INFESTED with Nazis. Bob, the word INFESTED means overcome by large numbers of some deleterious agent that causes great harm to the host.

So, Bob; it was your claim that Ukraine was INFESTED with Nazis; which necessarily must have resulted in great harm to Ukraine.

Back up your claim, Bob; with evidence. Specifically, quantify the “great number” of Nazis, and specify the exact harm they have caused, and how that harm affected Ukraine.

Post your evidence here, Bob; on this thread; so we can all follow it.


48 posted on 01/06/2024 6:13:37 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Reverend Wright

“Ought six, Why are you trying to restart old fights about Q, which are no longer relevant in 2023 ?”

I brought it up because QAnon was conspiracy-theory writ large. And ransomnote prominently displays his QAnon threads on his profile page, including as recently as a couple weeks ago (or, about six years worth). So, ransomnote apparently thinks it is still relevant.

“As for you trying to trying to use Regime-approved “fact-checkers’ to whitewash some of the unsavory elements of the Ukraine State...”

That’s a lie and you know it. I’m not whitewashing anything; I’m challenging the pro-Russia narrative. Moreover, I have not seen any “We approve of this message” announcement from Biden or his administration or from any government agency. But, perhaps YOU have seen such an announcement: Can you give us a link to it?.

“...everyone realized the nature of AZOV and the Ukrainian National Guard until this war started, when they were Woke-washed.”

Of course we knew about Azov. Just as we knew about the Wagner Group, and the Chechens: Bad players all. No one is saying that there were no extremists in Azov: What we are saying is that was a bogus pretext for invasion.

“Personally, I don’t care about who is supposedly the ‘Nazi’. Because that is just an ‘official bad guy’ category created by the Left.”

Well, I’m glad to see you equate Putin with the Left. That kind of says a lot about his admirers here on FR.

“But I don’t cover up history.”

Neither do I.

“For example I don’t deny either the Holodomor, or Katyn Forest...”

Neither do I.

“...but isn’t relevant to the fact that NATO caused and extends this war.”

How, pray, did NATO cause this war? Did NATO put into Putin’s head the idea that Ukraine was an illegitimate country, and that it was still part of Russia? Did NATO orchestrate Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2014 and force Russia to illegally annex Crimea?

NATO has its warts; but causing Russia to invade Ukraine isn’t one of them.


49 posted on 01/06/2024 6:33:09 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: BobL

Nice try, Bob. It was YOUR term, not mine.


50 posted on 01/06/2024 6:34:09 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
For about the 50th time here for you, here are the headlines from WESTERN publications on the Nazi Infestation of Ukraine. If you need more details, I suggest that you contact THOSE PEOPLE, as I don't go around counting Nazis in Ukraine, but OBVIOUSLY they did, or they would not have posted their stories. <><><>
51 posted on 01/06/2024 6:37:37 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: ought-six

I brought it up because QAnon was conspiracy-theory writ large. And ransomnote prominently displays his QAnon threads on his profile page, including as recently as a couple weeks ago (or, about six years worth). So, ransomnote apparently thinks it is still relevant.

I store Q thread links in a table I made myself and posted on my profile page. I guess storing links in my profile page for my reference was just too 'in your  face' for you to tolerate in silence?

To find my actual FR thread history, you'd have to check 'in forum' and 'threads'. As I said before, I have posted 6107 threads since 2008 and you have posted zero threads. Apparently you were certain I had nothing better to do with my time than meet your demands. Now you're simply kicking your feet and rolling around on the ground crying because I said 'no' to you.


52 posted on 01/06/2024 6:44:20 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

“I’ve posted 6,107 threads on FR; less than 12% of them are Q content.”

And they are all prominently listed at the TOP of your profile page.

“You have never posted a thread to FR.”

Nope. And I won’t.

“Somehow you ‘accidentally’ missed ALL my political, Covid and Covid vax threads and Ukraine threads entirely, for years.”

I didn’t “accidentally” miss anything. I was pointing out your association with conspiracy-theories. You’re probably too young; but I bet you would have been all on board with seeing the Illuminati, and the Freemasons, and the Bilderberg Group, and the Jesuits, and a whole host of Frankenstein Monsters behind every bad projection or evil omen that came down the pike. You guys need to turn off late-night talk radio and get a life.

“You sure lie and whine alot, for a guy who never bothered to post a single thread to FR. How did you become so self-important while contributing so little?”

I don’t lie, kid; nor do I whine: I challenge. I especially challenge fanaticism and conspiracy-theorism; because both prey on the gullible and the ignorant. And both are capable of fomenting great evil. History is chock-full of examples.


53 posted on 01/06/2024 6:49:27 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
I tried to read your article but had to stop when it called the (NAZI's), "far-right paramilitary group"

Fascist-syndicalism precursor of fascism. (Stirner beliefs. IE: workers' self-management.) Stirner was buddies with Marx. Georges Sorel(1847-1922) whom came up with the term helped put Mussolini and Bolsheviks come to power

In other words calling NAZI's "right wing" is no different then calling Communism right wring. Plain stupid.

I couldn't read anymore of that article. Sorry I tried.
54 posted on 01/06/2024 6:52:55 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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To: BobL

INFESTATION, Bob. That was YOUR term; that was YOUR claim.
Infestation implies large numbers, Bob; enough to affect a change in the host. It was your claim, Bob. You claimed the that Nazis INFESTED the Ukrainian military; the Ukrainian government; and Ukrainian society in general.

Prove it, Bob. Or man up and admit you exaggerated and resorted to hyperbole and sensationalism because you had nothing else.


55 posted on 01/06/2024 6:56:13 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

You’re pretending that you didn’t just claim all I ever posted was Q and maybe I was Q blah blah blah. When I pointed out your falsehoods, you just whirl around without admitting your numerous errors and strike a pose, that of ‘warrior against evil.’ That pose looks pathetic on you.


56 posted on 01/06/2024 6:58:19 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ought-six
said, " I especially challenge fanaticism and conspiracy-theorism; because both prey on the gullible and the ignorant."

Yeah noticed. you're article was pushing a conspiracy that "right wing" were the NAZI's. The term Fascist-syndicalism precursor of fascism came from Georges Sorel(1847-1922) whom called himself a Marxist. He came up with the concept in 1908 before the Bolsheviks came to power whom he helped.
I know a conspiracy when i see it.
57 posted on 01/06/2024 7:02:53 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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To: ransomnote

Nice try, kid. You’re one of those insecure blowhards who has a “Greatest Hits” list on his profile page. I mean, who does that? Only the insecure, kid.

“As I said before, I have posted 6107 threads since 2008 and you have posted zero threads.”

So what? I’ve been on FR longer than you and I’ve started no threads. So what? It means nothing.

“Apparently you were certain I had nothing better to do with my time than meet your demands.”

Nice try, kid. I gave you the opportunity to support your case; and you couldn’t do it. Like I said; you are a blowhard.

“Now you’re simply kicking your feet and rolling around on the ground crying because I said ‘no’ to you.”

Don’t flatter yourself, kid.


58 posted on 01/06/2024 7:04:45 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Steve Van Doorn

You missed the entire point of my post. It was to rebut Putin’s claim that one of his professed reasons for invading Ukraine was to “de-nazify” Ukraine. It’s irrelevant what political stripe they were (and I agree with you; Nazis were socialists, or leftists). The point is that the claim of “de-nazifying” Ukraine was BS, and was made only for domestic consumption; and had no attachment to reality.


59 posted on 01/06/2024 7:10:00 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
Asked to prove, "Nazis INFESTED the Ukrainian military; the Ukrainian government; and Ukrainian society in general"
Wikipedia has the information another site you likely agree with
Arsen Avakov Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine today. In April 2014 he lead the so called NAZI groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsen_Avakov#Events_in_Kharkiv
60 posted on 01/06/2024 7:15:36 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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