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To: JonPreston; allendale; marcusmaximus
Ukraine has been claiming that they've killed Gerasimov since at least March...of 2022.

Until there's an actual body (or until the Russians actually admit it officially), why should anyone believe this current report given the prior track record?

9 posted on 01/05/2024 7:49:47 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It’s a Russian Wagner Group affiliated source, not Ukrainian.


10 posted on 01/05/2024 7:54:56 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
--- "Ukraine has been claiming that they've killed Gerasimov since at least March...of 2022. [ Guardian UK, Mon 7 Mar 2022 ] Until there's an actual body (or until the Russians actually admit it officially), why should anyone believe this current report given the prior track record?"

The Daily Mail verbiage is interesting as Will Stewart "wiggles" after the breathless headline.

One reads:

The rumour of Gerasimov's death appears to have begun circulating after a Russian Telegram channel called 'Ordinary Tsarism' posted an unconfirmed report.

It read: 'According to preliminary data, Valery Gerasimov, who was in a command post near Sevastopol at the time of the attack, was killed in the attack on Crimea.'

The message then disappeared, with the channel giving no evidence for the claim.

Exciting stuff, eh?

All of my best military intelligence "disappears" with subsequent :no evidence for the claim."

Since this is war between two non-NATO nations -- "officially" -- one would expect losses on both sides. The true measure of the outcome of the war will be when it ends, how it ends and as it ends.

Until then, hogwash is spelled out in Ukrainian, Russian and English.... Mostly English interestingly.

This is because, in parallel with a real war, there is an ongoing information war, propaganda salvos fired in response to propaganda salvo. Believe them all? A better stance is to believe none, and wait for the eventual end.

13 posted on 01/05/2024 8:28:18 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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