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Bill Clinton is 'key person' to Epstein probe because of his close relationship with pedo and Ghislaine, court documents claim - and 'liked them young'
Daily Mail UK ^ | January 4, 2024 | Daniel Bates

Posted on 01/04/2024 12:08:04 AM PST by Morgana

Bill Clinton was described in newly-unsealed court documents as 'a key person' in the lives of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, who enjoyed a 'close relationship with the pair'.

The former president, now 77, has long insisted that his connections to Epstein were on a professional basis, to aid the work of the Clinton Foundation. He insisted in 2019 that during his four trips on Epstein's private jet, in 2002 and 2003, he was always accompanied by a retinue of staff and Secret Service agents.

But court documents from June 2016 - part of a defamation suit filed against Maxwell by one of Epstein's victims, Virginia Roberts - paint a different picture, after another document saw Epstein accuse Clinton of 'liking them young.'

A DailyMail.com photographer traveled to Bill and Hillary Clinton's home in Chappaqua, upstate New York on Wednesday night, but was kept well away from their home by local security. It is unclear where the Clintons are currently staying.

Roberts, in her filing, is seeking permission from the judge to force more people to sit for a deposition, to bolster her case.

Roberts - using her married name, Virginia Giuffre - argues that Clinton was close to both Maxwell and Epstein, who died in jail awaiting trial in August 2019.

'In a 2011 interview, Ms. Giuffre mentioned former President Bill Clinton's close personal relationship with Defendant and Jeffrey Epstein,' the court document states.

'While Ms. Giuffre made no allegations of illegal actions by Bill Clinton, Ms. Maxwell in her deposition raised Ms. Giuffre's comments about President Clinton as one of the 'obvious lies' to which she was referring in her public statement that formed the basis of this suit.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Morgana
Well if you were 'married' to Hillary, wouldn't you want someone better looking? 🤓

Not condoning it, but I might give Clinton a pass...🤓

21 posted on 01/04/2024 3:18:49 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Guns don't kill people, LIBERALS DO!! Support the Second Amendment...)
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To: Morgana
Some older guys do like them young, and by "young", I mean no younger than 18 but no older than 35, and if you think that's "evil" then you're probably a man-hating "me too" feminist. The age of consent wasn't determined by a bunch of dirty old men, so give an old guy a break if you see him sitting there at the runway of a tittie bar once in a while with a stack of $5 bills and a beer because after all, he's just "giving back to the community".
22 posted on 01/04/2024 3:19:08 AM PST by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: Rocco DiPippo
The press is going to quietly waltz past this. Minimal coverage. Within weeks it'll descend into the memory hole and we'll be back to Trump=Hitler.

Why wouldn't they? They know many if not most on the right will continue to pay them with their TV subscriptions, no matter what they cover up or how many times they lie about us and Trump.

The left talks with their money. We don't. That's why we're losing.

23 posted on 01/04/2024 3:39:50 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: equaviator

The truth can hurt.


24 posted on 01/04/2024 3:39:52 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

Please elaborate.


25 posted on 01/04/2024 3:46:16 AM PST by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: Morgana

The only reason that I can think of why that woman isn’t singing like a songbird is because she wants to die of a stroke when she’s 90.


26 posted on 01/04/2024 4:25:58 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: equaviator

At my age I consider dating a 60 year old woman to be robbing the cradle.


27 posted on 01/04/2024 4:27:23 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: Morgana

I know. This is no surprise, though Leftists of all stripes brand it as a smear against Bill Clinton. It is no smear.


28 posted on 01/04/2024 4:30:09 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: joshua c

I wish, BUT.....the Clintons have zero ability to feel embarrassment or shame of any kind. It’s not in their DNA. They’ll just never go away.

I’d like to think that when they are alone they feel humiliated. I doubt that they do.


29 posted on 01/04/2024 4:30:53 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: Morgana

Wait till they find out what happened in Hati......


30 posted on 01/04/2024 4:43:42 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Morgana

NOTE, while the article is - ostensibly - about disgraced President CLINTON and even though President Trump’s name is NOT identified as one of the pedophiles associated with Epstein, the communists at DM just HAD to include photos of President Trump in this article anyway.

See what the waste-stream media is doing?

Pay attention.


31 posted on 01/04/2024 4:46:41 AM PST by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America ‘tween MD and TN)
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To: equaviator; riverrunner; Morgana
I agree. This is likely a genetic predisposition in men. IOW, it is programmed into us.

It doesn't mean it has to rule us as men, and overrule our logical and moral duties as men (as it DOES for many men, such as the douchebag Bill Clinton) but it DOES exist. We are not beasts. We are men, so we are not total slaves to our impulses, though many men are.

It is why, if you show an image of a female face to men, the vast majority of men of nearly all ages, races, and cultures will rate the oval shaped face of a woman the most attractive.

For the same reason, men shown a variety of female body shapes will rate the traditionally shapely ones (hourglass figure) the highest, not women who are overweight or women with large buttocks.

It just is.

Many women don't like this, and paint men as shallow because of this, but there are ingrained reasons why this is so. Men are primarily visual in this respect.

Men who don't recognize this difference between males and females are puzzled when women chose a male as a mate whose physical attractiveness (as judged by other males) is rated as downright unattractive or "unhandsome".

What they don't know is women do not generally operate on the same principles men generally do.

Women absolutely are attracted by a good looking man. But they cast their net far wider when looking for a mate. It is that difference, containing that element of truth, that make both this link to a SNL sketch with Tom Brady on Sexual Harassment and these two versions of the "Hot vs. Crazy" graphs shown below hilarious...

Feminists are outraged by the truth, and these contain elemental truths. It is because they are insecure. Secure women know that a good man, a real man, will try hard to transcend the shallowness in an established relationship.


LINK: SNL-Tom Brady in "Sexual Harassment and You"

And of course, the famous "Hot vs. Crazy/Cute vs. Crazy Matrix"...

These have truths in them, which is necessary to make them funny.

32 posted on 01/04/2024 4:58:42 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: Morgana

“we knew this”

It’s a spicy story but there are important issues to spend our time on.


33 posted on 01/04/2024 5:08:31 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: rlmorel

>What they don’t know is women do not generally operate on the same principles men generally do.<

Thank God. That’s the only reason I was able to “marry up”.

She’s a real beauty, even at 56, extremely talented, smart, very well employed and joining me in retirement this year.

EC


34 posted on 01/04/2024 5:11:42 AM PST by Ex-Con777
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To: Morgana

The lefties countering this on X with a flood of memes/stories showing Trump as the main pedo-pal of Epstein.

Just go to X and see dozens of these.

By the way IMO her story is ludicrous, if anyone is going to stoop (and risk all the disastrous consequences) to sex have sex a 13 year old it’s not going to happen the way she claims:

https://x.com/RyanShead/status/1742651345239449955?s=20


35 posted on 01/04/2024 5:27:03 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
"They know many if not most on the right will continue to pay them with their TV subscriptions, no matter what they cover up or how many times they lie about us and Trump. . . The left talks with their money. We don't. That's why we're losing."

Exactly. I've tried talking several non-leftists I know out of their Netflix and cable subscriptions. Nope. I dumped Netflix years ago after Obola and his beard got hired by them. - I don't want people who want me shoved to the margins of society - or worse - to use my money against me or to use my cash to push their sick, anti-human agendas. My wife and I got used to doing without it very quickly. No big loss. Tons of free entertainment out there.

36 posted on 01/04/2024 5:29:55 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Ex-Con777

I married up...:)

I had big hands and big shoes...

(only kidding-that was the joke...!


37 posted on 01/04/2024 5:39:17 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: Morgana
Slick Willie may just be Epstein's recruiter of important and well connected people to participate so they can be blackmailed and controlled.

Remember Hillary and 900+ FBI files? The Clintons are no strangers to political blackmail.

And Epstein seems to have had a very effective scam going. Compromise important and wealthy people with pedo tapes and then get them hooked. Play his game and you get very expensive free trips to his pedo play grounds to indulge in your desires as a reward, don't cooperate and your life is ruined.

Ask Bill Gates how this works.

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Epstein's relationship go back to Bills days in Arkansas.

Clinton may have helped cover Epstein's dealings of buying and trafficking 8-12 year old girls from destitute and desperate parents in Romania and other Eastern European Com Bloc countries after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Back in the dark days after the fall of the Soviet Union young Russian and Slavic girls and women were trafficked under the most horrific circumstances.

They were lured away from home by promises of jobs in the West and then kidnapped by gangs or sold into slavery by desperate starving parents especially in the worst hit countries like Romania. They were groomed by gang members raping them and given drugs to turn them into addicts so they could be more easily controlled. They were then bough and sold to exploiters as "sex workers" ( ie de facto sex slaves) in the capitols of Europe, especially places like Prague and Budapest, for $3000-$5000 each.

European law enforcement was doing nothing to stop the situation and it was pretty obvious some high level people in Europe intentionally not acting to stop the situation.

There was some do gooder guy who really pushed the US congress to pass legislation to put a stop to the horror.

Mr Do Gooder, can't remember the guys name, did a great job and he became a hero of the liberal media for his crusading and a very frequent media guest on the topic.

First Lady Hillary Clinton stepped in as America's Head Feminist and threw her influence behind the guy and against all odds a really well crafted bill was drafted to combat the trafficking and went up for vote.

I was following this closely at the time and actually went home from work in the afternoon to watch it pass on CNN .

Everybody expected it to be slam dunk to pass, given all the bi partisan posturing of support from our wonderful elected officials.

Inexplicably it was voted down by the now familiar "Narrow Margin" where much needed but unwanted high profile legislation goes to die.

A rather shocked CNN reporterette was interviewing an even more shocked and very devastated Mr Do Gooder live on the capitol steps.

She asked Mr Do Gooder how this legislation could have been defeated, especially since no less a person than Hillary Clinton was pushing so hard for it and using all the backing and influence of the White House to get the legislation passed so Bill could sign it immediately into law to stop the trafficking and ease the suffering of these innocent young women.

Mr Do Gooder really lost it and went off on the reporterette and told her that it was actually Hillary Clinton who was responsible for killing the legislation.

In a now very familiar Clinton tactic , Hillary publicly took charge of the issue to control the narrative and was publicly championing the law as a high profile "woman's issue" to placate the activists and her feminist base while at the same time she cynically working as hard as possible behind the scenes in Congress to kill it.

Reporterette looked shocked and panic at the revelation and stammered while CNN quickly cut to commercial.

After the commercial, Mr Do Gooder, who had become a media darling on all the shows during the run up to this vote, was gone - never to be heard from again.

The whole issue of European sex trafficking of young Slavic women and the media crusade to put a stop to it went down the rabbit hole and quickly died off the media radar screen .

The interview with Mr Do Gooder was about one minute live on camera and only seen by a hand full of afternoon viewers so the report went down the media rabbit hole along with the death of media focus on the issue.

I was left wondering WTF just happened.

It was not until the early 2000s when revaluations about Bills penchant for high jinks with very young women on private planes ( a converted Boeing 727 of one of Bills best buddies outfitted with bedrooms was nick named by Clinton aides as Air F**k One) and his relationship with Epstein started to leak out, things became a bit clearer on why Bill and Hill may have torpedoed the Anti Sex Slavery Legislation

When asked about the infamous Bill Clinton blue dress painting, Epstein bragged that Clinton owed him big time.

That debt may just be Epstein's blackmail machine may just be what saved President Clinton from being removed from office after he was impeached.

It's amazing how well versed 10 year old slavic sex slaves can be in the intricacies of Scottish Law - just ask Arlen Specter.

38 posted on 01/04/2024 6:02:02 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: Morgana

And since Bill shot blanks, he never had to worry about the women getting pregnant.


39 posted on 01/04/2024 6:03:34 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: cableguymn
Nothing about Trump has ever been redacted by the press.

If there is even a whiff of scandal involving Trump, hundreds of "journalists" are deployed to sniff every angle out.

40 posted on 01/04/2024 6:05:52 AM PST by SamAdams76 (6,508,933 Truth | 87,456,907 Twitter)
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