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To: DallasBiff

Born innocent is Christian? That sounds more like Jean Jaques Rousseau. We’re born with Original Sin.


5 posted on 12/31/2023 8:12:14 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Ge0ffrey
Lord of the Flies ---


6 posted on 12/31/2023 8:16:18 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Exzctly. We are born in sin- but before the age of reasoning, many be,eive that those who die young before that time go to heaven, not having yet the capacity to recognize that they need a savior. (Some argue that off grid tibal folks “don’t know of their need for a savior” and will be saved, yet that isn’t true after the age of reasoning as the holy spirit works in all peoples lives to prompt them to seek the lord even though they dont know who the lord is. Those that listen to the prompts by the holy spirit will find him- but sadly too many learn to choose evil and hedonism over seeking the lord or “higher power”, but thankfully some do honestly reach out to find God.


7 posted on 12/31/2023 8:18:33 AM PST by Bob434
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To: tired&retired; DallasBiff

His parents were Catholic but he left the Church in his teens. I do resent the words, “And the Pope owns 51% of General Motors” in “Awaiting for you All” which is one of my favorites, but I only made out he words recently.

To change the subject, I wonder if Ringo Starr ever had a Near Death Experience during one of his many severe illnesses in childhood and beyond. Earlier I considered his “Peace and Love” 24/7 on almost every song, album, and appearance to be a little monotonous.

But partly due to reading (albeit cautiously) the posts of Tired&Retired and of two men who became devout, traditional Catholic priests after NDEs, I read several hundred more including those at (NDERF.org). The overwhelming tone is of complete, absolute, incomparable-to-this-life LOVE experienced on the other side, how they don’t want to leave, and how it turns their lives around like no mere dream or hallucination could.

Starr was hospitalized on and off for many months, as I recall, and certainly had the opportunity for such a childhood event. By the way, Starr had some good early 80’s songs that were better than lots of pop that charted, check them out. “New Wave” just one album.


10 posted on 12/31/2023 8:36:41 AM PST by F450-V10
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To: Ge0ffrey

Any baby screaming at you because it did not get its way tells you of our true selfish nature, our inner selves. We are not born innocent. We spend a lifetime trying to overcome it as Christians.


37 posted on 12/31/2023 10:08:51 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Ge0ffrey

Anyone who believes that people are born good has never watched 2-year-olds interact.


42 posted on 12/31/2023 10:27:29 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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