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Biden energy efficiency crackdown leaves no appliance in American home untouched
Just the News ^ | 30 Dec, 2023 | Kevin Killough

Posted on 12/31/2023 6:07:17 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: stylin19a

Environmental extremists who have never had to live with the results of what they require of us.


61 posted on 12/31/2023 12:18:48 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Man from Oz

If these moron regulators had a clue, they’d concentrate on requiring longer life, repairable machines versus overcomplicated stuff to meet extreme “efficiency” standards that result in the machine getting tossed out every several years.


62 posted on 12/31/2023 12:26:32 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Myrddin

We recently installed an “on demand” water heater (much needed in our multi-generational household with youngsters). Not sure if that’s the same as a flash heater. It works very well & takes up much less space in our horribly crowded laundry area. It did need a dedicated vent to the outside and a CO detector installed but we love it. Hard to say what the cost difference is; since we installed a gas heater on the pool too, and that’s quite pricey to run $$$$


63 posted on 12/31/2023 12:29:46 PM PST by twyn1 (“An evil man will burn his own country to the ground to rule over the ashes”)
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To: P.O.E.; FamiliarFace

Here’s a life hack for the “high efficiency” washers our DC overlords have foisted upon us.

Much of what they’re doing is trying to reduce water use. To heck with that, I want clean clothes, that takes water.

How do you get them to use more water?

Well, most have a sensing stage at the beginning of the load that determines how much water to use. I keep a 1 gallon plastic pitcher in the laundry sink I have next to my washer. I get my load, detergent, perhaps oxy ready. I fill the 1 gallon pitcher with hot water, and pour it on the laundry. This gets you an incremental 1 gallon of water, AND it gives you ~8 pounds of additional “laundry” weight in the sensing phase, so the machine adds more water than it would otherwise.

This has worked very well for me, I suggest trying it.

Now, it’s ridiculous that we have to resort to this sort of life hack to overcome the crap our genius over-regulators have imposed upon us, but here we are, what are you gonna do?


64 posted on 12/31/2023 12:38:08 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MtnClimber

Everyone in the Biden administration lacks any common sense about anything.

Three year record proves it.


65 posted on 12/31/2023 2:39:00 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: twyn1
Installing a flash gas heater next to an outside wall is a better option. My heater is dead center in the basement, so the venting was a big deal. Even with an outside wall, there is another issue for flash heaters. The vent system must protect the heat exchangers from freezing when the flame is off. We get Winter temps in the range of +40 to -27F. The low end would destroy the heat exchanger by freezing the water and splitting the pipes. In a mild climate, that isn't an issue.
66 posted on 12/31/2023 9:31:27 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: FreedomPoster

If I ever have to use one of those machines, I will utilize your tip. Thanks!


67 posted on 01/01/2024 12:11:09 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Pollard

That makes the WEF sound as benevolent and humanitarian as the left tries to make $oro$ look.


68 posted on 01/06/2024 4:55:50 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Myrddin

We have a small electric instantaneous hot water heater for our cottage.

For the little use it gets, it is well worth it. The cottage could not accommodate a regular sized water tank, and there’d be the issue of winterizing it every year. With this, we take it out and bring it home with us every fall for the winter. And it does not draw that much electricity that the panel can’t handle it.

The cottage came with an old electric one which was 20 gallons and had rotted out. One shower, and it was hours to recharge so any shower would be it for hot water for most of the day.

They have their uses but I could not imagine using an electric one for home use.


69 posted on 01/06/2024 5:09:53 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: FreedomPoster

The morons who established these regulations don’t seem to have the wherewithal to realize that if they make the machines fill less, people will do more, smaller loads, or hack it like you do.

People are not going to put up with dirty laundry.

The water saver dishwashers are no better. Two stinking hours to run through a cycle. Since it’s now just mr mm and me, we hand wash the few dishes we use. It’s easier than loading the dishwasher and letting it rot for a couple days while we try to fill it up.

So guess who ends up using more water thanks to stupid bureaucratic regulations?

We are exceedingly blessed as we have abundant water on our property and the well is good enough to bottle. We had it tested when we bought the house. Thank God for His provision that way.


70 posted on 01/06/2024 5:18:03 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

This isn’t stupidity on Deep State’s part.

This is about annihilating the middle class.

And not just here in the US...


71 posted on 01/06/2024 5:20:03 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Myrddin

Mr mm and I vacationed once on AnnaMaria Island in an AirBnB and the place had the laundry and water heater outside. It was kind of something to wrap my mind around to think of living in a place that was warm enough all year round that you never had to worry about it freezing.


72 posted on 01/06/2024 5:20:42 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: mewzilla

I do realize that.

Of course, they will exempt themselves from all they impose on us.


73 posted on 01/06/2024 5:22:49 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: MtnClimber; metmom
BTW, and from the horse's mouth...

DOE Finalizes Efficiency Standards for Residential Refrigerators and Freezers, Closing Out Remarkable Year of Cost-Saving Progress

Note the use of the term RESIDENTIAL.

Isn't that interesting...

74 posted on 01/06/2024 5:23:47 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: metmom

Not on all of us.

See my reply #74.

Is there one humongous carve-out for apartment complexes...?

If so, isn’t that interesting.


75 posted on 01/06/2024 5:31:28 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: mewzilla

That’s right because we will own nothing and be happy.

TPTB want all of us dependent on them for the basic necessities of life. All the easier to control the masses by.


76 posted on 01/06/2024 5:34:46 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom
Definitely a different mindset. Hawaii is the closest I've experienced firsthand. I'm no fan of humidity, so it is unlikely that I will have that experience again.
77 posted on 01/06/2024 9:33:34 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: metmom
The flash heater in the B&B was part of the vacation experience in Wales. Just a few days. I wouldn't choose that as a long term solution.
78 posted on 01/06/2024 9:38:46 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

It works well for us for the cottage. It’s very space efficient and there is always hot water.

Basically, it’s just needed for the shower and dishes, so not a lot of use.

Laundry is done at the camp laundromat.


79 posted on 01/06/2024 10:23:06 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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