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To: gibsonguy

ICE cars are freedom machines. All others are restrictions on personal liberty to varying degrees. Rational, freedom loving people drive ICE vehicles.


12 posted on 12/07/2023 8:18:14 AM PST by allendale
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To: allendale

That’s what we did. We replaced both cars with new ICE cars that we intend to keep, think Cuba


19 posted on 12/07/2023 8:32:08 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: allendale; gibsonguy
ICE cars are freedom machines. All others are restrictions on personal liberty to varying degrees.

I agree 100% if we're talking about choosing just one option (i.e. I have just an ICE or just a hybrid or just an EV.) But since I need 2 cars anyway (like most married couples) I find that having one car an ICE and the other car an EV gives me a freedom of choice every day we decide which to drive.

Combine that with the multiple ways the Dims are attacking energy, IMHO mine and my wife's transportation is more secure by not having all of our cars' energy in one energy type basket. In other words, if the Dims keep making electricity more expensive (IMHO it's already there) and less reliable (not yet in Alabama), no problem, we can do most of our driving in the ICE pickup. If the Dims make gasoline scarce and/or too expensive (IMHO it's still too expensive), no problem, we can do most of our driving in the EV.

All the more so in our specific case by the fact that we have tons of solar, to the point that 80% of our power comes from solar (buying only 20% of our needed power from the grid). That includes charging the EV (in the past 12 months we've charged the EV at home for 16K miles, that's 1,300 miles per month, not counting charging it away from home on trips).

I'm not saying it's best for all use cases. Nor do I like the fact that the Dims make it tougher (we should all be able to gas up easily and cheaply). I'm just saying it is what it is and, therefore, there are plenty of people in a situation where having an EV as part of your two-car fleet helps restore some liberty.

23 posted on 12/07/2023 8:45:45 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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