[Jonty30]

My understanding is that devout Jews, who are against the establishment of Israel, believe that, unless God established Israel Himself, it shouldnt be established.

[RandFan]

It’s something we need to bear in mind

[Fido969]

My understanding is that devout Jews, who are against the establishment of Israel, believe that, unless God established Israel Himself, it shouldnt be established.

Well, they haven't read the Old Testament, then.

[RoosterRedux]

Without a prophet who speaks for God, who’s to know whether God established the state of Israel or not? After all, God operates through humans who sometimes are not even Godly.

[Yardstick]

The linked video shows a concert hall full of what appear to be ultra orthodox Jews. Those guys are definitely not liberal lefty types.

[wardaddy]

Red Calf people

And nutty lefties too I guess

I’m not certain how devoted some Hasidism are to anti Zionism

My own experience has been that notion is way overblown

In Israel and 47th most of them I dealt with were settled in about Israel

In Israel many are subsidized as scholars

Not exactly embraced by everybody lol

[FamiliarFace]

Didn’t God establish Israel? I thought that’s who established it after the time of Moses. What was the Pentateuch about if not the establishment of Israel by God, that they were a chosen people in a chosen by God land?

[COBOL2Java]

My understanding is that devout Jews, who are against the establishment of Israel, believe that, unless God established Israel Himself, it shouldnt be established.

That's one of the themes running through Chaim Potok's "The Chosen". Good novel

[JimRed]

...unless God established Israel Himself, it shouldn't be established.

God uses men to accomplish His purposes. Even badly flawed men. Like the UN.