Posted on 12/05/2023 10:17:06 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
College football ping.
It’s been a long time since you played in the NCAA without being compensated in some way, whether it be a sportscar or nice apartment and living benefits.
They are just being honest about it now.
Why should the NFL farm system be allowed to operate under the aegis of non-profit organizations?
Go the other direction. Return all college sports to the club model, with no athletic scholarships and coaches paid like adjunct faculty.
Tell the television networks to go pound sand. If they still want to pay for the rights to televise real student-athletes playing club level football and basketball, fine. But every penny should go to the universities’ general fund, not to the athletic department.
The direction div 1 sports has moved convinces me they do not belong on academic institutions. They are a business the same as the 49ers or other NFL teams. Academics are no longer part of the equation.
Just call the NCAA the NFL’s minor league farm system and be done with it. That’s what it is.
Whatever is in the players’ lives that is still academic in nature will surely either and eventually become a vague memory.
surely wither
NCAA following in the footsteps of the Olympics. Money rules..
Who exactly would argue for this? The players? The coaching staff? The broadcasting networks? University Board of Trustees? The NCAA?
Because I'm having a difficult time trying to imagine who would honestly prefer your arrangement to the one currently in place (much less what's being recommended by the NCAA).
“...I’m having a difficult time trying to imagine who would honestly prefer your arrangement to the one currently in place...”
I don’t think you give them enough credit for their efforts. Rule changes, advanced recruiting tactics, the literal removal of entire conferences to chase the money eastward (see PAC-12), and the manipulation of the rating system to get preferred colleges into the money game with bowl appearances, national television time, are just a few of the changing tactics to orchestrate a money making machine designed to spread the wealth to selected groups. And it’s been going on for over three generation at least.
I can remember a junior college I attended in the early 1970’s that went into the national championship as the northern California champion rated #2 in the state and nation behind Fullerton JC as #1. We played them in Bakersfield at the end of the season and beat the living skit out of them. It was so bad that at the end of the game, they were third and goal on the 2 and when their quarterback checked both backs said out loud they didn’t want it. So we hammered them but in the ratings by the AP on Monday they were still #1 both pieces. And to this day, I’m still not sure how the money for the teams from the game was split and where it went.
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The universities absolutely do not want this. Look around the world. In only one country do you see universities associated with major sports teams. That also happens to be the only country in which people maintain fanatical loyalty to their schools and donate huge amounts of money to their schools.
Take away the school fight songs, the marching bands, the cheerleaders, the gold plated facilities and especially the football and men’s basketball teams, and the money spigot will be turned off. American universities are the envy of universities around the world for the fierce devotion and loyalty and generosity of their fans and especially alumni. Several European school chancellors, etc have come to the US seen how its done and tried to get that going in European countries. It has never worked there. This is a unique part of American culture. We should preserve it.
I agree. I think one could argue that has the most advantages to improving collegiate education.
Whatever proposal should promote competition among colleges to improve academics (and flush neo-marxist schools down the drain).
For example, TV money could go into a national general fund that goes into individual colleges funds, spread out according to the size of the student body, with an equal allowance to pay coaches, give athletic scholarships, and other operational costs. The best players would only be motivated by (hopefully non-woke) academics, the coaching quality, and school pride. Discuss...
Let the NFL and NBA develop their own minor leagues for non-students and make tons of money.
Translation: the NCAA wants to have control over how money changes hands.
Corruption follows money as night follows day. The NCAA is a voluntary organization and no schools are technically forced to join;however, as a practical matter they are. Things have gotten out of hand, but instead of the institutions doing something about it themselves, they are lobbying Congress to solve the problems for them. One can only imagine the calamity that will ensue if that happens.
Then again, Dick BloomingIdiot (Moron-CT) could put a dagger in UConn's Athletic Department and sue the NCAA for antitrust!
If this is required for all sports, between the money drained off from the two profitable sports and the added expense for the money losers expect college sports to drop to football, men’s and women’s basketball and enough other women’s sports to match football’s participation to comply with federal law.
Here’s the progression as I see it:
1. Biological men begin to dominate women’s sports and are awarded athletic scholarships in large numbers.
2. Women drop out of sports in large numbers.
3. Schools face a dilemma that they can’t fix when they can’t reconcile the decline of women’s sports participation with the stupid mandates they face under Federal Title IX requirements.
4. Schools eventually drop their sports programs entirely rather than face the untenable scenario of reconciling Title IX with the LGBTQWERTY idiocy.
5. Revenues from profitable sports — namely, just football and men’s basketball — are preserved by having these leagues set up as independent organizations, with no direct affiliation with colleges and universities, that pay licensing fees to NCAA schools for the use of their names and logos (Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Alabama Crimson Tide, etc.).
6. Minor college sports that are nothing but cost centers for NCAA schools are relegated to club sports that are financed by participants and their own sponsors.
Everybody gets what they want at the end of the day under this scenario.
The alumni that really care will eventually die off. Chinese and Indian students for the most part don’t give a crap about football or basketball. Since they pay full freight, the universities woo them like they’re pretty girls. In Canada, talented hockey players go into the junior ranks where they are given room and board and a stipend, just like American universities, but they don’t have to pretend they’re students. The same process goes on in Europe also. Universities have sports teams also. College hockey in Canada and college soccer in Europe is played at such a low level nobody really cares except friends and family. The Dallas U-15 soccer team that beat the women’s national team would beat Oxford or Cambridge in soccer, probably by the same margin.
It will probably be after most of us are dead and gone, but I believe college sports will eventually be adopting the club model, Young men just aren’t that interested anymore, especially football. At best, it will become geographically regionalized, like college hockey.
In Florida for example, universities can tax a maximum of 10% out of state students. 90% must come from in-state by law. Other states have similar laws for their universities.
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