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Massie votes No on the resolution "Reaffirming the State of Israel’s Right to Exist” BECAUSE ...
Twitter/x ^ | Nov 28 | Rep. Thomas Massie

Posted on 11/28/2023 8:39:56 PM PST by RandFan

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To: Olog-hai

Peter Hichens has rightly pointed out that the Holocaust made it perfectly clear that Jews needed a homeland.

That doesn’t make everything the government in Israel does right it is not above reproach or criticism just as certainly as the US government is.

I am a Zionist I support the notion of the State of Israel but I don’t think that its leaders up to and including Mr. Netanyahu are above reproach.

They make bad policies just like anyone else.


61 posted on 11/29/2023 3:07:45 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: RandFan

He’s absolutely on target.


62 posted on 11/29/2023 3:10:33 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Freest Republican

Deuteronomy 1:17
Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it


63 posted on 11/29/2023 4:53:38 AM PST by Theophilus (It's far easier to rig a jury than an election)
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To: Nextrush

Amen


64 posted on 11/29/2023 4:56:19 AM PST by Theophilus (It's far easier to rig a jury than an election)
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To: lonestar67

Israel can’t be criticized? What about freedom of speech?


65 posted on 11/29/2023 5:01:28 AM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: lonestar67
Here is a criticism that I hold against the State of Israel: Israel denys the right of its citizens to keep and bear arms leaving them vulnerable to the savage depredations of its neighbors.

Is my criticism "antisemitic"?

66 posted on 11/29/2023 5:12:17 AM PST by Theophilus (It's far easier to rig a jury than an election)
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To: RandFan

Freepers and nuance

Not a likely pairing


67 posted on 11/29/2023 5:15:22 AM PST by wardaddy (I have seen true anti semitism is more common in USA than I imagined. A disease in the public mind)
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To: lonestar67

Are we allowed to say Tel Aviv is a very bustling city for supporting the gay activity or are we to pretend otherwise and reserve any criticism?

Or maybe forget how the people were pretty much forced to take those covid vaxes?

https://www.touristisrael.com/why-tel-aviv-is-the-ultimate-lgbtq-travel-destination/26062/

Nobody is above criticism.


68 posted on 11/29/2023 5:16:31 AM PST by dforest
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To: RandFan

So is Massie an anti Zionist? From the river to the sea Massie is a douche bag.


69 posted on 11/29/2023 5:19:02 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Altura Ct.

Racist.


70 posted on 11/29/2023 5:20:59 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: RandFan

I’m voting no on the resolution because it equates anti-Zionism with antisemitism. Antisemitism is deplorable, but expanding it to include criticism of Israel is not helpful.

Say what...??


71 posted on 11/29/2023 5:24:17 AM PST by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: Theophilus; lonestar67

“denys” = denies.


72 posted on 11/29/2023 5:31:17 AM PST by Theophilus (It's far easier to rig a jury than an election)
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To: RandFan
Who does Massie think he is?


73 posted on 11/29/2023 5:32:14 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: RandFan

First we should pass a resolution “Reaffirming the Free Republic of The United States Right to Exist”


74 posted on 11/29/2023 5:33:24 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: RandFan

The whole resolution is trivial and meaning less. Furthermore, it doesn’t matter.


75 posted on 11/29/2023 5:35:23 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: RandFan

I agree with Massie’s position. Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism are two different things.


76 posted on 11/29/2023 5:50:44 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I AM A ZIONIST HOODLUM!)
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To: SaveFerris

I bet you were shaking your head when Ron Paul voted against the Patriot act and the was in Iraq too. I know that I was.

Who ended up being right about that?

These guys who stand on the principals of liberty usually end up being proven right in the end.


77 posted on 11/29/2023 6:32:27 AM PST by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: nitzy

He’s hit and miss, too.

I wasn’t too comfortable with that back in the day and Bush’s border security wasn’t the best either.

I would leave Israel alone - but the world won’t - just watch how it ends.

Yes, Israel is going to be severely attacked. The world’s armies are going to be wiped out with a Word at Armageddon.

But we’re always 7 years away from that until the ‘Peace and Security’ gets confirmed.


78 posted on 11/29/2023 6:36:12 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: nitzy

[I bet you were shaking your head when Ron Paul voted against the Patriot act and the was in Iraq too. I know that I was.]

Oh, and your bet is completely wrong.

I was constantly saying that I believed Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Mostly Saudis.


79 posted on 11/29/2023 6:37:44 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: dforest
I've mentioned it before. Tel Aviv, like every major city around the world (from what I've seen looking at pictures to meme) has this stuff going on. Very strange world we're living in these days (of Lot).

This picture is from Tel Aviv, Israel (IIRC).


80 posted on 11/29/2023 6:45:37 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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