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To: BeauBo

They have already been told that the war would have to end and that they would have to get rid of their corruption problems before they could ever be a member of either.

Hah, you don’t really think they are going to be a member of NATO while engaging in a war do you? None of those countries intend to send their own military to Ukraine. Ukraine is broke and they have nothing left to offer NATO or the EU except their soil at which they are already setting up for the taking when it is over.

In fact, that is why they have decided to use the Ukes to fight Russia. they installed their puppet who loved getting really rich along with his cronies to sacrifice their people in a proxy war with Russia.


100 posted on 11/29/2023 7:30:24 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

“you don’t really think they are going to be a member of NATO while engaging in a war do you?”

I doubt that Ukraine would be formally admitted to NATO while shooting is active, but West Germany was during its frozen conflict, while Eastern portions were occupied by the Russians (Soviets).

I expect that all the nuts and bolts of NATO interoperability will be worked out on an accelerated timeline (already are), so that accession to NATO is ready to be part of a peace agreement, as Ukraine’s security guarantee.

In the meantime, during hostilities, Ukraine will likely continue to receive many of the military benefits of NATO membership, except no NATO combatants will join the fight.

In the end, Ukraine will likely join NATO with the largest and best trained Army in Europe, able to supply significant oil, gas and grain to the EU.


108 posted on 11/29/2023 8:43:03 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: dforest

“Great Clowns think that the Ukraine will join NATO.”


115 posted on 11/29/2023 5:30:09 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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