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Update from Ukraine | Ukraine Pushed Ruzzians on the north of Avdiivka. Ruzzian attack failed again
Youtube.com ^ | 11-26-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 11/26/2023 6:17:20 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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VIDEO COMMENTARY

26 Nov: Russians Learn That FREE CHEESE IS ONLY IN THE TRAP | War in Ukraine Explained
Reporting from Ukraine
440K subscribers
11-27-2023 2:30 a.m. EST
5:30 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWUpHsFqnM

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I am Ukrainian. My country has been invaded by Russia. In this video I will tell you what happened on the six-hundred-forty-first day of the war.

Day 641: Nov 26

Today, there are a lot of updates from the Avdiivka direction.

After Russian forces conducted the first two massive waves of attacks on the Ukrainian flanks and did not achieve almost any results, the Russian command decided to focus on a completely different area, namely the southern part of the region. Here, Russians predictably opened 2 vectors of attack along the highways: towards the “Tsarska Okhota” restaurant and a small industrial zone.

As described in one of the previous videos, the situation around the “Tsarska Okhota” restaurant was quite simple – Russians conducted head-on assaults on Ukrainian fortifications with remotely-controlled machine guns and were destroyed by them. The latest updates suggest that Russians were pushed back from the embankment and now have to start the storming operation from the beginning.

The defense of the small industrial zone, however, had quite a few challenges. First of all, it is much closer to the initial contact line from 2014, so the battles in this region have been taking place for 10 years, which took toll on the buildings and other Ukrainian fortifications in the area.

On top of that, Russian forces here were the closest to their main logistical center, so when Russian forces ramped up their offensive in this region, the sheer density of fire created a lot of problems for Ukrainians. Russian tanks would assume firing positions multiple km away from the Ukrainians and start to methodically destroy the buildings. The ruins slowly expanded the grey zone and gave more room for the Russian infantry.

Ukrainian fighters reported that Russians usually used platoon-sized assault units reinforced with tanks and armored fighting vehicles. When the outer edge of the industrial zone was leveled with the ground by Russian tanks, artillery, and aviation, the Ukrainian commanders reevaluated the situation and created a new plan.

Ukrainians understood that staying there under constant fire was not productive, especially as the area is open and can be targeted from any side. Moreover, Ukrainians completely control the small forest around the industrial zone, allowing them to accumulate forces while controlling the site from the north and northwest. Ukrainians also have a number of fortifications southwest of the industrial zone, so Ukrainians decided to leave the rubble, entice Russians to enter the empty ground, and attack Russians from three sides.

Shortly after that, Russian sources published footage showing how Ukrainian units were leaving the remnants for the industrial zone and claimed that Russian forces breached the Ukrainian defense and established total control over the plant. Unfortunately for Russians, these claims were premature.

Once Russian forces started entering the industrial zone, they realized that there are virtually no shelters left to hide and establish a permanent presence because they destroyed it with artillery. Moreover, the Ukrainian special force hunted down the Russian artillery in the region. The footage shows the destruction of Grads and Msta-S systems from HIMARS, leaving the Russian vanguard with little fire support.

The decreased use of Russian artillery gave more freedom for the Ukrainian units to destroy everything that enters the territory of the plant. Ukrainian drone operators released dozens of videos of strikes and showed how the moment Russian mechanized units enter the region, they are getting hit with kamikaze drones.

A Ukrainian fighter said that Russian forces increased the number of troops by 5 times to capitalize on the capture of the ruins of the industrial zone, however, this only led to so many bodies scattered throughout the area that Russians do not even bother to start collecting them.

Some Russian analysts realized that this was a trap, and Russian forces made a huge mistake by entering the premises before securing their flanks and started criticizing the premature claims of Russian success. They said that no one should be celebrating anything because there are still small forests full of Ukrainians in the north, vineyards turned into extensive trench networks, the “Tsarska Okhota” restaurant and fortifications around it, the hamlet in between, and the former air defense base that surround the vulnerable Russian bridgehead.

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101 posted on 11/26/2023 11:54:55 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's ntervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

On multiple occasions, Mother Nature has been a factor favoring one side over another. The Mongols mounted two invasions of Japan, both of which were crippled by storms. A Mongol siege of an Italian settlement in Crimea was hobbled by a plague that weakened the invaders sufficiently to buy time for the arrival of Italian reinforcements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasions_of_Japan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Caffa

How this particular storm plays out is unclear, but early indications are that it might create opportunities for Ukraine in the days and weeks ahead, by destroying much of Russia’s deployed air assets, and possibly related warehoused parts and other supplies. Without those assets to put out fires on the front lines, the Russians will have difficulty holding back Ukrainian breakthroughs. Whether Ukraine is sufficiently prepared to take advantage of this glint of daylight is something we’ll see soon enough.


102 posted on 11/27/2023 12:13:51 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei
Without those assets to put out fires on the front lines, the Russians will have difficulty holding back Ukrainian breakthroughs.

"Breakthroughs" into the bezdorizhzhia?


103 posted on 11/27/2023 12:22:56 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Zhang Fei
It IS possible that the Ukrainian girl soldiers will be great at doing the backstroke through the mud to capture Melitipol...

       

104 posted on 11/27/2023 12:24:49 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Have no illusions. War is always about killing the enemy with the most potent means available at the least cost to your side. Run the numbers in the cruel accounting of war and the A-bombing of Japan was a tremendous success in terms of the avoided cost for the US of an invasion.

I once worked for a man who spent most of WW II training to be a troop leader in the first wave to invade Japan. He and his fellows -- all volunteers -- expected to die in the first hour if they even made it ashore. He was a big fan of nuking Japan.

Anyway, my comment was not intended as a criticism but as an observation based on Russian military history and their conduct in the current invasion of Ukraine. Russia's large population traditionally meant that it could usually field large armies and overwhelm opponents -- as Napoleon and Hitler both learned. As Putin has found though, modern US and NATO smart weapons have changed the equation to the advantage of small, better equipped military forces.

106 posted on 11/27/2023 1:27:58 AM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: dforest

We shall see in the coming months if I am correct.


107 posted on 11/27/2023 1:28:50 AM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: SpeedyInTexas; ransomnote; bimboeruption; Worldtraveler once upon a time; Allegra; Right Brother; ..
"Thanks for the daily threads. Keep up the Good Work!"

I believe that the FR comment posted below illustrates the basic mentality that drives most Youcrayniac's undying love and strident, but laughable, propagandizing for one of Europe's most corrupt nations and its grifting, gay-dancing, satanist-appointing, piano dick-playing, running-around-naked-in-grocery-stores, kleptocratic, globalist puppet "leader."

Ugh.

Deranged

lunatic

108 posted on 11/27/2023 1:34:44 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: BabaOreally; bimboeruption

Welcome back to Free Republic after your long absence, Baba...


109 posted on 11/27/2023 1:46:01 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Steve_Seattle; Allegra; Worldtraveler once upon a time; bimboeruption; JonPreston; ransomnote; ...
I'll help you with that one: UMC stands for "United Methodist Church." By her own admission here on FR, this paid Youke propagandist is an ordained minister in that church.

What's interesting about that is that though she spends a ton of time posting these crazy, endless propaganda blasts (sometimes twice in a day), Not once has she either posted or commented on the war going on in her church in which LGBTQWERTY crazies are ripping it to shreds.

I recently discovered why that's so but at least for now I won't get into it here on FR. But if you're curious about that, simply type her FR screen name in Google Search and have fun!

110 posted on 11/27/2023 1:50:13 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
"I truly believe what I stated in Comment #41: many have become misguided and are now trapped and entrenched by Russian propaganda. "

And. . . with that idiotic assertion you've been selected as today's first winner of the Youcrayno the Clown!!!™ Award. Good job!

(Cue stupid, unfunny counter-meme of Putin/clown pic in 5-4-3-2-1)

Youcrayno

111 posted on 11/27/2023 1:57:26 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Apparatchik; UMCRevMom@aol.com; MeganC; Widget Jr; Sunsong; tlozo; MalPearce; Timber Rattler; ...

So long as Ukraine is holding it’s own against these poor miserable rural and prison Russian recruits, the PUtin/Russia apologists will continue to complain about those of us who support Ukraine’s utimate victory. Of course once Putin has to send in recruits from Moscow, St. Petes and other educated somewhat prosperous cities we will no longer need to waste our holidays pointing out their falacies and falsehoods.

The new urban recruits will probably start letting Putin and Co. know how they really feel. Then we can move on to more useful issues, rather than spending time on objecting to clearly criminal international behavior, which will no doubt end up in International Criminal Court for the many war crimes committed in the past 2 years.


112 posted on 11/27/2023 2:06:38 AM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Keep up the good work, the intense flak means you are over the target

Lots of energy, to put it nicely is being directed toward you

Thank you


113 posted on 11/27/2023 2:57:19 AM PST by blitz128
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Well, the weather has broken very hard. Ukraine has been hit with major snow and ice storms. Pictures from the Black Sea coast show severe flooding. I think the war will stop for a bit while both sides try to dig out. Thanks for the updates on the situation. You post things I have no time to find.


114 posted on 11/27/2023 3:07:20 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: Firehath

Yes, just a soulless supporter of invasion, conquest, brutality, and murder,

You can drag the Democrats in all you want, but you’re still wrong.

Russia invaded Ukraine and the Ukrainians will slaughter the orcs by the truckload until they leave. They are exercising their right to survive.

You and so many others here have been so politicized that you no longer see right and wrong - you only see right and left. That is sad.


115 posted on 11/27/2023 3:18:13 AM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: All

Thank you for your kind comments.

I also especially appreciate receiving this very thoughtful video regarding how ‘Internet Trolls’ intentionally act to cause discord within the U.S. [Putin’s Playbook-12:10]

“Why Internet Trolls Do What They Do and How to Spot Russian Fakes”
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39.1K subscribers
Nov 12, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLtBzvw0—0


116 posted on 11/27/2023 3:43:31 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's ntervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: bimboeruption; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Apparatchik
bimboeruption: "This thread is brought to you by the Ministry of Propaganda of Ukraine."

With many ridiculous responses from the Russian Ministry of Propaganda, including specialists in "woke-warfare" who weaponize cancel-culture to shut up their opponents... ahem... looking at you, Allegra.

117 posted on 11/27/2023 4:07:48 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: MeganC
Creepy watching an angry guy post as a woman.

What a loser.

118 posted on 11/27/2023 4:13:28 AM PST by Atomic Vomit (No globohomo on FR. Zot mombot)
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To: House Atreides
House Atreides: "Ukraine Lost More Than A Million People"

Depending on how you count them, Ukraine has lost far more than one million:

  1. "Nearly 6 million refugees fleeing Ukraine are recorded across Europe,[1]

  2. while an estimated 8 million others had been displaced within the country by late May 2022.[2][3][4]

  3. Approximately one-quarter of the country's total population had left their homes in Ukraine by 20 March.[5]

  4. 90% of Ukrainian refugees are women and children, while most Ukrainian men between the ages of 18 and 60 are banned from leaving the country.[6]

  5. By 24 March, more than half of all children in Ukraine had left their homes, of whom a quarter had left the country..."

  6. "According to the United States Department of State, at least 900,000 Ukrainian citizens have been forcibly relocated to Russia 1.

  7. Casualty estimates as of August were roughly 200,000 military, including 70,000 killed, plus circa 30,000 civilians, including 10,000 killed.
So, clearly Ukraine's population has shrunk by many millions, including around one million abducted into Russia.

119 posted on 11/27/2023 4:22:57 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: House Atreides
House Atreides: "Ukrainians Flee From Positions In Avdos, Kupiansk, Klishchiivka, Krynky.
Military Summary 2023.11.26"

All according the Russian Ministry of Propaganda.

According to Ukraine, as listed post #9 above:

  1. AVDIYIVKA AXIS: the invaders made assaults with air support east of Novobakhmutivka, south of Novokalynove, Sjeverne, Stepove, Avdiyivka and Pervomaiske (Donetsk oblast), to no success.
    Ukrainian defenders repelled 24 attacks in the area.
    The enemy fired artillery and mortars at around 10 settlements, including Sjeverne, Netailove, Avdiyivka, Pervomaiske (Donetsk oblast).

  2. KUPYANSK AXIS: the enemy conducted unsuccessful assault operations in the vicinities of Synkivka (Kharkiv oblast) and Novoselivka (Luhansk oblast), where Ukrainian defenders repelled 6x attacks.
    The invaders fired artillery and mortars at the settlements of Kamyanka, Dvorichna, Synkivka, Petropavlivka, Ivanivka, Berestove (Kharkiv oblast).

  3. BAKHMUT AXIS: the invaders made assaults with air support near Klishchiyivka, Andriyivka and east of Pivnichne (Donetsk oblast), where Ukrainian defenders repelled 7 attacks.
    The adversary launched air strikes in the vicinities of Bohdanivka, Klishchiyivka, Toretsk, Pivnichne (Donetsk oblast).
    Around 10 settlements, including Bohdanivka, Ivanivske, Klishchiyivka, New York (Donetsk oblast), came under artillery and mortar fire.

  4. KHERSON AXIS: the enemy fired artillery at the city of Kherson.
    The invaders launched an air strike in the vicinity of the settlement of Krynky (Kherson oblast).

120 posted on 11/27/2023 4:40:30 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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