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To: Tench_Coxe

Ukraine would have got a decent deal if they started to negotiate early last year. Now they’re looking at getting a Treaty of Versailles if they’re lucky.


7 posted on 11/24/2023 4:44:17 PM PST by MNDude
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To: MNDude

No, it’s going to be like Poland in 1945.

Stalin redrew their borders, and they had no say in the matter.


9 posted on 11/24/2023 4:47:19 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: MNDude

Negotiate with Russia over Ukrainian sovereignty? Ukrainians aren’t entitled their own borders, language and culture? Interesting position there. Isn’t that what Marxist Democrats say about us?

The intellectual bankruptcy and vapid arguments of the Moscow Kremlin’s useful fools never fails to entertain.


52 posted on 11/24/2023 5:58:14 PM PST by lodi90
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Ukraine would have got a decent deal if they started to negotiate early last year.

They did in March 2022 when Russian forces were near Kiev. They had a deal with the Russians for an armistice while revised borders were formalized, but NATO intervened and convinced Zelensky he could chase the Russians out of Ukraine with Western help.

The neocons led Zelensky down the Primrose Path to get the money and weapons flowing. They hoped crushing Russia in Ukraine would shatter the Putin regime and take Russia off the board.

Both Zelensky and NATO chose poorly.

61 posted on 11/24/2023 6:35:18 PM PST by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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