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To: Tench_Coxe

This is neocon plan B. They failed in their primary goal of overthrowing the Russian government is gone. So they want to create a “frozen conflict”. The moment they get that, they intend to make rump Ukraine an EU member, or maybe a NATO member, or “NATO lite”. Either way they will FLOOD Ukraine with missiles, ammo, supplies, tanks, fighter jets etc.
They will also flood in NATO advisors and trainers to
It will all become a several years build up to launch a new assault when Putin dies or leaves office. And the new assault will have NATO protection.

Russia knows this is another Minsk ruse.


41 posted on 11/24/2023 5:39:04 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino
That might be close. When I saw that article about CIA Burns going to Ukraine, it was an indicator that Ukraine was in trouble. Even additional arms and money wouldn't help when the average age now in their armed forces is 40ish--they don't have the manpower. Wunderwaffen won't help.

Its why reports of the Ukraine military is in conflict with Zelensky's appartchiks are probably true.

Burns was probably there to assess how much of their 'asset' they can salvage, since Americans and Europeans haven't been able to be convinced/tricked into sending their children as cannon fodder.

55 posted on 11/24/2023 6:00:18 PM PST by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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