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More cartridge details here: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/03/02/ukrainian-horizons-lord-anti-materiel-rifle-and-new-12-7x114hl-cartridge/
1 posted on 11/20/2023 3:41:13 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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2 posted on 11/20/2023 3:41:40 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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This why Russia will never win in Ukraine.

Snipers can and should do this to Russians ruling Ukrainians.

This doesn’t have to be an expensive win.


3 posted on 11/20/2023 3:43:49 PM PST by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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Why are you posting this dumb stuff here celebrating death of an individual and destruction of a country for hubris...this is not a video game.


4 posted on 11/20/2023 3:44:11 PM PST by bte
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Something telling here:

“Another design requirement for Horizon’s Lord rifle was the capability of changing the caliber. That’s why the bolt head and barrel of the rifle can be easily detached. In a matter of bolt head and barrel change, the caliber of the rifle can be changed to .416 Barrett, .460 Steyr, .50 BMG, or 12.7x108mm. Even easier, in a matter of only a barrel change, the rifle can be converted to 14.5x114mm or 23x115mm.”

They didn’t develop it... It too conveniently fits our barrels and bolts.


10 posted on 11/20/2023 4:12:13 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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Sure he did. LOL


11 posted on 11/20/2023 4:14:10 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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This is probably the world’s most advanced “rifle”... or is it even a rifle...?
A technical marvel.


14 posted on 11/20/2023 4:17:58 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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26 posted on 11/20/2023 4:44:14 PM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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ummm, it’s the Horizon’s Lord...

https://sites.google.com/view/horizonslord/horizons-lord


31 posted on 11/20/2023 4:55:22 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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I call BS on this... Ukrainian propaganda.


32 posted on 11/20/2023 5:00:54 PM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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https://sonar21.com/more-delusional-nonsense-from-richard-haas/

Richard Nathan Haas is an American diplomat. He was president of the Council on Foreign Relations from July 2003 to June 2023, prior to which he was director of policy planning for the United States Department of State and a close advisor to Secretary of State Colin Powell in the George W. Bush administration.

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Despite Ukraine’s much-heralded counteroffensive, Russia has actually gained more territory over the course of 2023 than Ukraine has.

The problem is that Ukraine’s military shows no signs of being able to break through Russia’s formidable defenses, no matter how long and hard it fights. Defense tends to have the advantage over offense, and Russian forces are dug in behind miles of mine fields, trenches, traps, and fortifications. The West can send more tanks, long-range missiles, and eventually F-16 fighter jets. But there is no silver bullet capable of turning the tide on the battlefield.

Time will not be on Ukraine’s side if a high-intensity war drags on indefinitely. Russia’s economy and its defense industrial base are on a war footing. Moscow is also importing arms from North Korea and Iran and has access to consumer items that contain technology that it can repurpose for military uses. Should Russia need to reinforce its military presence in Ukraine, it has a large pool of manpower on which to draw. Russia has also found new markets for its energy, while sanctions have had only a modest effect on the Russian economy. Putin appears politically secure and in control of the levers of power, from the military and security services to the media and public narrative.

34 posted on 11/20/2023 5:03:30 PM PST by Kazan
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Woohoo! Since it’s not full auto it doesn’t require a tax stamp, no? I’ve never seen one at my local FFL though. Hmmmm...


38 posted on 11/20/2023 5:08:17 PM PST by Afterguard
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https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/ had a much larger, less messed with, copy of this video.

You couldn't see anything in that video either.

43 posted on 11/20/2023 5:34:33 PM PST by Pilsner
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“a sniper serving in Ukraine’s security service (SBU) claimed...”


47 posted on 11/20/2023 5:57:16 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Cool story, bro


49 posted on 11/20/2023 5:59:56 PM PST by MNDude
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Discussion: https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/12-7x114mm.7121585/
More info: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/03/02/ukrainian-horizons-lord-anti-materiel-rifle-and-new-12-7x114hl-cartridge/
"According to the data published by MAYAK, the 750gr Hornady A-MAX bullet pushed by the 12.7x114HL cartridge to an MV of 1000 m/s (3280 fps) goes subsonic at about 3000 meters whereas the 988gr B-32 bullet of the 14.5x114mm cartridge also traveling at a muzzle velocity of 1000 m/s becomes subsonic at 2400 meters."
The 12.7x114HL is a wildcat of the 14.5x114mm antiaircraft machine gun cartridge necked down to 12.7mm. Even for a 1 MOA rifle, that means a least a three and a half foot wide circle at that range, more after dropping below the speed of sound. There was a lot of luck involved in that shot. The 14.5mm parent round would make a nice anti-material rifle, should the opportunity present itself.
52 posted on 11/20/2023 6:16:40 PM PST by Widget Jr
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Just like the Ghost of Kiev taken straight out of a video game. Ukrainians are known liers and this is a pristine example.
Look a clips of a lot of their supposed war footage straight out of video games.


80 posted on 11/21/2023 8:46:16 AM PST by 4bye4
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Definitely not suitable for drive by shootings


83 posted on 11/21/2023 11:11:26 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzPTEYCGCM4


86 posted on 11/21/2023 11:23:07 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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