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To: central_va

Here is an example of their fantasy world childishness.

Here is the full version of the Libertarian position on immigration.

COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER

IMMIGRATION:
“”THE ISSUE: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

THE PRINCIPLE: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

SOLUTIONS: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

TRANSITIONAL ACTION: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.””


21 posted on 11/20/2023 7:07:25 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Immigration has always been the main disagreement with libertarian ideology for me.

It is why I left the party.

You cannot defend the country if you have open borders.

29 posted on 11/20/2023 7:22:36 AM PST by marktwain
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To: ansel12

“We welcome all refugees…” The problem of course is the present assumption that all of them are refugees. And the other problem that a lot of refugees are toxic to a free society.


34 posted on 11/20/2023 7:37:46 AM PST by marron
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To: ansel12
If conservatives or liberals get half of what they ask for from government then life in general is better from their points of view.

However, if libertarians get half of what they ask for then things often get worse, even from a libertarian's perspective.

Immigration is a perfect example. If you get open borders but you can't eliminate welfare payments, then you get people flooding into the country who will eventually become citizens and vote for more government and welfare payments.

Libertarianism is more utopian than communism. At least the communists realize that people don't really want to be communist and must be reeducated to tolerate it or otherwise eliminated. The libertarians oppose forced reeducation so they are forever trying to implement libertarian policies in countries where the vast majority of people don't want them.

42 posted on 11/20/2023 8:52:13 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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