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Update from Ukraine | Successful Landing operation on the South | Ukraine is Ready for Big move
Youtube.com ^ | 11-17-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 11/17/2023 6:20:08 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I’m interested in the truth...

The truth doesn’t have to be helpful, inspiring, necessary or kind.

Go post drivel like this on a first grade bulletin board.

Despite what you may think, you’re not our mommy.


81 posted on 11/18/2023 1:24:15 PM PST by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: bimboeruption

+1


82 posted on 11/18/2023 1:58:43 PM PST by wgmalabama (Censored )
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To: All

83 posted on 11/18/2023 3:29:42 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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84 posted on 11/18/2023 3:38:46 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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85 posted on 11/18/2023 3:48:07 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: caww
Thanks so much! 😆
86 posted on 11/18/2023 3:58:51 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: caww
SO FUNNY! Just in: the latest in 'kids-speak'
87 posted on 11/18/2023 4:03:35 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Good Idea!

Regards,


88 posted on 11/18/2023 4:09:43 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

It’s funny to see the posts about Ukrainian draft dodgers…. How many have fled Russia?

“Failed Ukrainian offensive” that one is even funnier considering the “unstoppable” second biggest and baddest Russian military takes months/years to almost take a few cities

Crow on trolls, keep it up mom don’t comment often but to read

Stopped giving hits to the trolls, that’s what they want to get paid
And even if not paid trolls still not worth the effort lol


89 posted on 11/18/2023 4:13:43 PM PST by blitz128
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To: caww

Thanks ROTFL


90 posted on 11/18/2023 5:26:39 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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“It’s funny to see the posts about Ukrainian draft dodgers…. How many have fled Russia?”

This is just the tip of the Russian draft dodgers dilemma. Remember, last year were told that Russian government officials were sending their kids to illegally cross the U.S. Border.

But, this article from Moscow Time is revealing:

‘I Don’t Trust What They Say’: Russian Draft Dodgers Stay in Hiding Even as Putin Announces Mobilization’s End
The Moscow Times
Anastasia Tenisheva and Yanina Sorokina
Nov. 2, 2022 [go to LINK for photos]
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/02/i-dont-trust-what-they-say-russian-draft-dodgers-stay-in-hiding-even-as-putin-announces-mobilizations-end-a79257

Nikita moved to his family’s summer cottage outside the Russian capital to lie low after President Vladimir Putin announced a “partial” mobilization for the war in Ukraine.

Although Putin said earlier this week that mobilization was over, Nikita told The Moscow Times that he has no plans yet to return to his normal life in Moscow.

“I don’t trust what they say,” said Nikita, 27, who declined to provide his surname for fear of being identified by enlistment officers.

“The rules are simply not followed.”

Tens of thousands of Russians have sought to evade mobilization since the chaotic call-up of fighting-age men from across the country began in late September, with a mass exodus to neighboring countries dominating headlines for several weeks.

Among those unwilling or unable to flee abroad, some, like Nikita, moved to different locations in order to throw the authorities off the scent. Others regularly spent the night in different apartments, disabled their doorbells, avoided public spaces, went on extended camping trips in remote areas or even inflicted injuries on themselves.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said last week that the country had met the goal set by Putin of mobilizing 300,000 reservists and that no more draft notices would be sent out.

But the announcements by top officials heralding the end of conscription has been greeted with widespread skepticism, particularly as several Russian regions had previously declared an “end” to mobilization as men continued to be drafted.

“I’m only going back home only when the call-up is really finished or when they cease all hostilities,” one IT specialist who went on an indefinite camping trip in southern Russia in late September in order to avoid being mobilized told The Moscow Times.

“I’ve seen the news of men being mobilized despite deferments or exemptions,” added the man, who requested anonymity to speak freely.

For over a month, he has been chronicling his experiences on a Telegram channel, Logical Forester, which has over 21,000 subscribers. He said his equipment in the wilderness included tents, solar panels, dried vegetables, an ax and telecommunication equipment to access the internet.

Under Russian law, men eligible for conscription must be handed a draft notice in person. Enlistment officers regularly visit workplaces or the homes where reservists are registered.

If a man is handed a draft document and signs for its receipt, but later does not appear for conscription proceedings, he is formally considered to be a draft dodger — and faces possible jail time if caught.

Failure to show up at the enlistment office after receiving one’s draft papers is punishable by a fine up to 3,000 rubles ($48). Repeated no-shows can result in a two-year prison term. Russian lawmakers announced plans Tuesday for legislation that would introduce jail terms up to five years for draft dodgers — although the proposal was withdrawn the same day.

[A tent and solar panels used by an IT specialist hiding from mobilization in the forests of southern Russia. t.me/force_resistance]

While there are no exact figures of how many draft-age men have fled the country since the launch of mobilization, Forbes Russia reported last month, citing Kremlin officials, that the total could be as high as 700,000.

Popular destinations have included the post-Soviet states of Georgia, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan.

However, many Russians were unable to flee — lacking the money for expensive plane tickets — or limited by elderly parents, mortgages and other commitments.

Some who stayed behind started working remotely to avoid being handed draft papers at their offices, while others avoided public transport or crowded streets where they feared police checks. Other reports documented people disabling doorbells so they wouldn’t hear enlistment officers, while videos circulated online of men deliberately inflicting injuries on themselves as a way to gain a medical exemption.

“I’m ready to break a leg or an arm,” said a resident of the western exclave of Kaliningrad in a September report by the BBC Russian Service.

Vladimir, 26, told The Moscow Times that he packed up his belongings and moved 200 kilometers from his home in the Siberian city of Ulan-Ude to a house deep in the forest the day after mobilization was announced.

“When it turned out that I fit the vague criteria [for mobilization], my calm evaporated,” said Vladimir, who requested anonymity to speak freely.
Mobilized men in the Russian army. Stanislav Krasilnikov / TASS
Mobilized men in the Russian army. Stanislav Krasilnikov / TASS

Putin said at a press conference Monday that the call-up, which was necessary to provide manpower for Russia’s struggling Armed Forces in Ukraine, had come to an end.

However, experts have repeatedly warned that verbal assurances from Russian officials without a presidential decree are non-binding.

When asked by reporters about whether a presidential decree was required to end mobilization, Putin said he would “talk to lawyers.” The following day, Putin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said that the president had, indeed, consulted with legal experts who assured him that a new decree was not necessary.

Even if Putin were to change his mind and sign a decree ending mobilization, some Russians would still be unable to relax and return to life as normal.

The IT professional camping in southern Russia said he plans to build a small house in the forest in order to survive the upcoming winter.

“My future plans are uncertain at the moment,” he said.

And Muscovite Nikita said he will continue living in his family’s cottage outside Moscow. “Even if a decree was signed, it would not change my decision,” he said.


91 posted on 11/18/2023 5:37:56 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: bimboeruption; blitz128

You might realize there is time you find yourself waiting juggling a busy schedule, e.g. meetings, ministry, medical appointments. I find it more satisfying to go to F.R. then playing Candy Crush or Spider Solitaire! LOL

But, you do you :)


92 posted on 11/18/2023 5:49:08 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: Vlad0; blitz128; popdonnelly; MeganC; Sunsong; Widget Jr; Vermont Lt; USA-FRANCE; Monterrosa-24; ...

I dpn’t quite see why you think Mexico has anything to do with my Comment #75 regarding the failure of Russia/Putin to adaquitly supply their troops for combat.

However, since you have decided to throw Mexico into the discussion, I would like to know why the last administration failed to convince Mexico to block people from entering their country and then allowing them to cross into our country. This was supposed to be an easy fix paid for by Mexico. Imagine how much angrier Putin would be if Ukraine was letting people migrate through Ukraine into Russia itself. However, this is not what was happening, and still Putin/Russia decided to start a NOT-war that has resulted in around half a million deaths of Russians and Ukrainians.


93 posted on 11/18/2023 7:51:19 PM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority)
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