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To: Pol-92064
How about passing the Bar exam without going to law school?


3 posted on 11/14/2023 10:00:40 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

For many years one could become an attorney by reading law and working in a law office.
Here is what I found on Google:

In the United States, there are four states that allow a person to qualify to take the bar exam without attending any law school: California, Vermont, Virginia, and Washington. Instead, the student studies between three and four years in a law office. Each state has their own rules regarding reading the law, but all require that the student study the black letter law in multiple subjects. A fifth state, New York, allows students to enter into a law office study program after completing one year of law school.


16 posted on 11/14/2023 10:09:27 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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Erle Stanley Gardner dropped out after one semester. He was a law clerk at a Los Angeles practice and passed the bar exam and had a very successful practice. Calvin Coolidge was a practicing lawyer and never attended law school. Lincoln never attended law school. Law school was a 20th Century innovation, prior to that one learned the law by apprenticing.

In fact, a few years ago, graduates of Suffolk (close cover before striking) Law had a higher rate of first time passing the Massachusetts Bar exam than graduates of Haavaad Law. It’s probably still true today. The Haavaad kids had to attend cram school over a deli at night to learn about silly little things like torts and causal estoppel because they were too busy learning critical law theory, which the bar exam inexcusably ignores.


20 posted on 11/14/2023 10:11:34 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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I doubt they look like that guy


23 posted on 11/14/2023 10:13:08 AM PST by albie
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To: Yo-Yo
How about passing the Bar exam without going to law school?

Well that's how it used to be: Just pass the exam we don't care how you could do it. The dirty truth is that American law schools don't teach their students what they need to know to pass the bar exam in their state, or their state's laws. The ABA has a monopoly in the U.S. on certifying law schools, and thus lawyers, but because they have a monopoly, students waste tens of thousands of dollars on ABA sophism. I would prefer a system more like the U.K. Let students get a bachelor of laws to become paralegals or solicitors, but require a higher degree to bring cases in the courts. It would make for a better legal system and legal profession.
28 posted on 11/14/2023 10:14:45 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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I personally don’t have much of a problem if someone becomes a lawyer by taking the Bar exam without going to Law School, but if I were hiring them, I would ask to see their record as a lawyer before I hired them.

That obviously doesn’t apply across the board. If someone demonstrates advanced math skills without having a degree, I could hire them as a teacher. But if someone is a surgeon without Medical School, I would obviously view that differently.


47 posted on 11/14/2023 10:37:38 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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“How about passing the bar exam without law schoo?”
That is how Abe Lincoln became a lawyer.


51 posted on 11/14/2023 10:49:21 AM PST by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole. You had so much to offer, why didya offer your sou?)
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To: Yo-Yo

I miss Mike. 😀


52 posted on 11/14/2023 10:51:59 AM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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