I’m not sure where you’re contesting what I said in my disputing your claim TR was a Conservative. If anything, you’re confirming exactly what I said.
Roosevelt deeply regretted his promise to not run again in 1908 and when Taft didn’t act like his puppet, he used that as an excuse to try to depose him in 1912 (which he still couldn’t do in-party. I’d say those statewide conventioneers recognized TR rightly as a menace in staying true to Taft). He could’ve played the statesman, withdrawn his candidacy, urged the party to stay united behind Taft in the 1912 general and to not split the party with the 3rd party Progressives for Congress and other downballot offices.
By doing so, TR could’ve preserved his viability for becoming the GOP nominee in 1916. Nope, his ego wouldn’t let him do it, and so we got the disastrous Wilson as a result.
“You may want to look up Trump’s economy swing and check to see how he did it.”
I was talking about President Harding. It was not a dig at President Trump, nor even at Reagan. Harding and his Treasury Secretary, Andrew Mellon (arguably the greatest Treasury Secretary) was the last President who cut the size of the government, taxes, and spending across the board. Reagan couldn’t, because he had a Democrat House that wouldn’t allow him to do so. Trump similarly was not able to do all 3 (he wasn’t helped by a RINO Speaker & Senate Majority Leader). Both Reagan and Trump were still successful with stimulating economic growth, BUT not actually cutting the government itself is what has been the problem now for almost a century. Why the base has been enraged by promises from Republicans to “cut/cut/cut” since the 1930s that were never carried out.
In 2025, President Trump is going to need to be Harding-Mellon on steroids. Ruthless and merciless government cuts, not decreases in the increase in gov’t spending, actual trillions in cuts in spending, elimination of departments, a full-scale nuking of the heart of the Derp State bureaucracy. Scatter the agencies to small towns across America. Make it absolutely miserable for people to commit to any more than a short period of time in gov’t service. It should be a sacrifice, not a way to get a lifetime sinecure and perks and social standing in Georgetown.
“He could’ve played the statesman, withdrawn his candidacy, urged the party to stay united behind Taft in the 1912 general and to not split the party with the 3rd party Progressives for Congress and other downballot offices.”
I don’t base success of a politician based upon the party he/she prefers. My comfort is with the needs he/she provides to the majority of the people he/she serves. You seem so intent upon the party needs that do not always go in the direction of the people. I prefer a leadership that will challenge the registered party to do something in the best interest rather than this is how we always have done it. And that’s what made T Roosevelt and D Trump, and many times R Reagan, different. That’s what made them successful and follow the path of prosperity that the people actually wanted while the party was comfortable with getting by.
They were presidents that stand out because they were leaders in a direction of the people, not of the party. And that point I made clear. T Roosevelt was so willing to back the people he left the party he was in to do for them. So he was elected as a walk on. And that takes people, not party. Reagan was willing to go after Russia until he broke them into almost just being a land mass full of hungry people to protect our people. And Trump staged the greatest come back of a failing country in history economically, and protection wise, even though that old party got in his way at ever turn (and I’m talking about both). And he’s still paying the price for thinking of us rather than his party paycheck.
I can’t make it any clearer. These men, and a few more I didn’t mention, were leaders, not followers. And they are the leaders of change and success, the difference in today’s world between prosperity and survival. Right now we are in survival and losing. And the numbers show that with polls for 2024 candidates. In this world, if you don’t prosper, you die. They want prosperity back. And Biden is not the answer. Trump is the only choice to step forward and not back. And that course was set by T Roosevelt because he got the attention of the people and not the paymaster. Trump has made a show of giving away his paycheck, donating his salary to the National Park Service, the Department of Education, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Small Business Administration, the Surgeon General’s office and the Department of Agriculture. He understood that there’s no end to rich unless the rich set the limit. Our current politicians have no end to giving away your money. Way too much of it. And too much of that stops at their pockets on the way forward.
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