Posted on 11/04/2023 12:19:12 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
You’re welcome to believe what you wish. I only tell you what I know.
There is a limit on how many electrons you can store in a battery. It is physically based, because electrons have mass and can only be pushed together so close.
It’s not going to get better.
You may have noticed that the climate cultists are doing their best to reduce grid capacity with the insane push to eliminate reliable sources of electricity and replace them with the expensive, intermittent “green” nonsense.
It is (a disjointed, incoherent, mess of an article) but I agree with his positive review of LiFePO. I have six cells in a starting battery for a Buell 1200cc and the pack survived unbelievable abuse after running down then being left in a discharged state for two seasons... Then charged back up practically like it was brand new! It does turnover the bike’s motor just fine.
Sorry, I’m hazy on the cell count. Might be 8: 4s, 2p
I have 2 science degrees.
It’s nowhere close to theoretica limit.
I’m betting it’s a lot closer than you believe it is.
Hybrids, I can appreciate. I do not believe in full EV cars.
The only trustworthy detector you can put in a garage is a thermal rate-of-rise detector. CO detectors are problematic in garages:
1. Carbon monoxide and combination alarms may not function in temperatures below 40 degrees or over 100 degrees Fahrenheit
2. Dust and other pollutants in the air may cause failure of the unit
3. Nuisance tripping. The alarm may go off when a car is just pulled into the garage and left running for a very short period of time. After a couple of times of this nuisance tripping, some people will remove the batteries or disarm the detector.
Same. I have a theory on that one. Modern cars have all kinds of gadgets now that draw power all the time, turned off or not.
I get that, problem is I have the same problem with my classic 1970’s Chevy’s where batteries have a much shorter life now than in the past.
Fair point, but anything is better than nothing! I am going on 6 months with my CO detector in the garage but its already cold enough that it will get sketchy.
When you have a “fuel” that can go from venting to flashover or deflagration in seconds any early warning is beneficial.
I thought about a rate of rise thermal detector but I am not sure they will work well with LIB fires because the batteries often do not display rapid temperature increases while venting (pre-combustion) utilizing high quality thermal imaging and the vapor cloud itself can hide the increase. We have vented and measured vapors for seconds before it shows on a TIC but still not a bad idea.
My primary focus in the last year has been studying the toxicology and contamination. Scary stuff.
It is for the foreseeable future if they keep pinching back oil,gas, coal, and nuclear. Sorry, solar and wind will never do it and only subsidies are keeping them afloat. If you take away the subsidies, the equivalent price for a gallon of gas would be $17 per gallon.
When the article spoke of stationary uses for the incredibly cheap, but heavy for Sodium ion batteries, what did you think that was referring to? There’s plans already underway to build the infra-structure to store hours worth of the entire nation’s energy usage in a network of batteries. There’s enough lithium that’s economically recoverable for the entire world fleet of cars to have lithium batteries, and there’s 1,000 times more sodium available, and the sodium ion batteries don’t even need any of the other rare metals, like chromium.
>> It is for the foreseeable future if they keep pinching back oil,gas, coal, and nuclear. Sorry, solar and wind will never do it and only subsidies are keeping them afloat. If you take away the subsidies, the equivalent price for a gallon of gas would be $17 per gallon. <<
Your data is hilariously out-of-date. It’s like I’m trying to find a 2-gigabyte drive to stick in my USB-C port, and you’re telling me that a single megabyte memory device is the size of a building. Over the last 20 years, the price of solar power generation has fallen from $12/w to $1/w. And the price of energy storage has fallen NINETY-SEVEN percent since the GM car flopped.
Jimmah Carter told me there wasn't enough oil.
When I first heard about solar cells it was in the early 1960s. They were hilariously expensive and wimpy. The only possible use for them was in space satellites where nothing else worked. But, the learning curve works. Wright’s Law says that, percentage wise, you learn about the same amount each time you double the quantity that has ever been produced. This maps to the idea that if you plot the log of the cost against the log of the quantity ever produced, a straight line will be a good fit to the data.The result can be that a technology languishes initially because it just isn’t cost-effective. But even then, since the past production is so low it doesn’t take forever to double the quantity ever produced - with maybe a 20% (plus or minus ten percent) improvement in production efficiency with each doubling. And if that continues long enough, a tipping point is reached and the technology suddenly makes excellent sense - and the production rate accelerates remarkably. And that’s what I see happening in solar and battery tech, and the cost effectiveness “suddenly” gets a lot better than old codgers (I speak as an octogenarian of some years' standing) are used to conceiving of.
While the ICE was not perfect it was light years ahead of Electric and Steam, well steam had a major problem in that you had to start your engine a half hour before you could use it.
The people who were early adopters of technology are people who had to get somewhere quickly. Doctors, police, fire, military. Standing around waiting for the engine to build up a head of steam was not practical. You might as well stick to a horse.
Agreed!
do a quick google search for theoretical battery power density.
The results i get show curren Li-Ion batteries are about 1/10 of what’s theoretically achievable.
BTW, we get about 30% of the theoretical energy of gasoline (most of the energy is wasted as heat)
Your guy is FOS. Few tires weigh 20 lbs in total. Do you see a lot of cars driving around on their rims?
It reads like an unedited transcript of a talk.
No offense, but atomic physics does not seem to be your forte. It's not like cramming a load of potatoes into a truck...
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