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Important background article.

http://www.danielgreenfield.org/2023/10/how-hamas-attack-took-israel-by-surprise.html

HOW THE HAMAS ATTACK TOOK ISRAEL BY SURPRISE
Daniel Greenfield October 31, 2023

A week before its attack Hamas agreed to another truce with Israel. The agreement negotiated by Qatar, Egypt and the United Nations traded an end to border attacks for more imports, a bigger fishing zone and more work permits that allowed over 20,000 Gaza Muslims to enter Israel.

The agreement reached between Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar, and Sukkot, the conclusion of the High Holy Days season, offered an end to the explosives and rocks being hurled at Israeli soldiers on the border and the incendiary balloons starting fires on Israeli farms.

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Qatar, a state sponsor of Hamas and an ally of the United States, claimed that it had “succeeded in de-escalating the situation in the Gaza Strip by mediating an understanding.”

Hamas ended the border riots and Israelis went into the Sukkot holiday with an apparent calm. The Israeli army and security forces continued to focus on the West Bank, where much of the violence appeared to be coming from, rather than the Gaza Strip which seemed quiet.

But the border attacks and the negotiated ceasefire had all been part of a feint.

Hamas had been working on a large-scale attack for two years. During this time it had calculatedly tamped down some of the violence and appeared amenable to informal truces in exchange for benefits. The results appeared so impressive that Biden’s National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan bragged to Foreign Affairs magazine about “deescalating Gaza and restoring diplomacy”. These claims would be removed from the online version of the article.

More seriously, Israel’s intelligence apparatus was so focused on Iran that it had stopped eavesdropping on Hamas as a waste of time. Two years without a major confrontation had convinced too many in Jerusalem and Washington D.C. that the situation was under control.

2023 had been the deadliest year in some time, but the violence was coming out of the West Bank. And that’s where the Israeli military and its domestic security forces were focused.

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Islamists engage in terrorism, but it was a catastrophic mistake to think of Hamas as merely a terrorist group and to reduce it to its tactics. The Hamas attacks discarded terrorism and turned to guerrilla warfare, drawing on everything from classic Mohammedan warfare to ISIS attacks to Marxist campaigns in Southeast Asia. Hamas stepped out of the box to launch an operation that overwhelmed Israeli forces still thinking of it in terms of counterterrorism rather than all-out war.

To win a war, you must know the enemy. Israel had lost sight of who its enemy really was. But so has every nation in the free world facing a religious war that is over a thousand years old.

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961 posted on 11/05/2023 3:06:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: little jeremiah
Anyone that would trust an agreement with hamas is either stupid or hopelessly naive.The Israelis are neither.They would have to be blind not to see through any agreement with savages that uses women and children for shields and have no regard for anyone's life friend or foe.

Also, nothing makes sense since we have first hand intel that hamas was practicing making war only 300 yards from the border fence and was increasing the level of “practice “ up to the invasion. You would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to notice it.

As far as qatar goes they are the funding mechanism for worldwide terrorism including the MB(muslim brotherhood) which has infiltrated the US all over the place. How can they be an ally of the US? Not any more than Turkey.

It appears hamas had indeed been working on large scale attacks for several years. The two best intel agencies in the world are the Mossad and CIA.Tell me they didn't catch any of that in two years!

No friggin way!!

It had to be well known!!

The claim that Israel stopped monitoring hamas due to Iran is 1,000% bogus they would never do that. Too much at stake with an enemy only a few football fields from their door.

1,048 posted on 11/06/2023 4:05:45 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: little jeremiah
a religious war that is over a thousand years old.

A "religious war" where only one side has a religion, and the other side is a psychopathic death cult.

Nobody kills more moslems than the muzzard death cult.

1,118 posted on 11/06/2023 9:00:27 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (That IS NOT "a donkey"!!!)
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To: little jeremiah

A very informed and apt description of the situation.


1,184 posted on 11/06/2023 2:00:21 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on flight MH370)
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