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To: Melian

Noisy weapons/brain damage: Yup. Studying military history, one of the footnotes I run into studying WW I is how the artillery crews were prohibited by their commanders from putting anything in their ears or even covering them during operations. I’ve never found any kind of explanation for that bit of backasswardness. Even with that, it is pretty well documented that many gun crewmen succumbed to the heebie-jeebies in one form or another after continued exposure. “shell shock” they called it. Why it’s taken a century for this concussion damage to get some attention will remain a thickheaded mystery to me. But growing up, I knew numerous WW I vets who were in France, and suffered thru the problem. Virtually every one had hearing that was not up to snuff.

Maybe the work now being done to study the damage being done to footballers who get their pumpkin thumped will lead to a better understanding of concussion, big gun fire, blasts of every sort, kinds of damage?

As a powder monkey who occasionally sets off a boom, I’ve long known to keep some distance when I light the fuze. If I can feel it, I was too close. That’s my rule anyway.


955 posted on 11/05/2023 2:48:36 PM PST by OldWarBaby
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959 posted on 11/05/2023 2:56:47 PM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: OldWarBaby

My dad was 132nd FA in WWII. His hearing started to go in his early 40s.


976 posted on 11/05/2023 4:29:09 PM PST by Melian (✳✴️ Reminder: Memes are made to make you think or laugh. Verify for yourself before reposting. ✳️✴️)
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To: OldWarBaby

That’s very interesting.
I was in the Canadian artillery militia when I was a kid, late 1960’s, and they issued us ear plugs, and the worked quite well.

That said, andhdhs as jodhpurs.


1,002 posted on 11/05/2023 6:54:09 PM PST by gymbeau (I refuse to be anonymous. I am THEnonymous.)
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To: OldWarBaby
“shell shock” they called it.

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Interesting. When PTSD was identified after Vietnam, the literature stated that "Shell shock" from previous wars was the same thing, but hadn't been recognized.

The explanation with actual concussions contradicts that view. It feels right to me, at least in the case of artillery crews.

The other famous group of patients sponged into the PTSD bucket was active duty British soldiers of WWII who were pulled back from the front lines suffering from what was called "Battle Fatigue." This led directly to some of the most famous work on psychology of large groups. I wonder what is the true story there.

1,369 posted on 11/07/2023 12:44:03 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian (Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes.)
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