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I’m currently in the middle of the pro-life vs. pro-choice debate....Being pro-choice, why are you one and what’s the scientific evidence that defends your arguments? [refutation of "pro-choice" arguments made by a poster. See comments] ]
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Posted on 10/29/2023 11:28:22 AM PDT by daniel1212

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To: cockroach_magoo
Go ahead and do a DNA test to determine whether the fetus is "part" of the woman's body.

DNA? Biology? Do you not know that (according to progressive aggressors, human life as well as the sex thereof is based upon how the subject feels, at least at the moment.

21 posted on 10/29/2023 11:58:43 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212

Since many leftists are atheists, I developed a nonreligious way of talking about abortion. I have some pictures of my nieces at 6 months old, 3 months old, and just a day old. As I show each picture, I ask if we can abort her. Of course, they scoff at it. Eventually I get to the day old picture, asking if we can ‘get rid of this person, this life.’ I then ask, so if this person is a life today, what about the day before, the week before, a month before? When does she become a nonperson? They do not have an answer. Some of them get the point. The radicals are rabid killers and could care less.


22 posted on 10/29/2023 12:03:27 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Take a look around you. We have a weak American President. Our enemies are taking advantage of us. Joe Biden remains an effective demagogue. He'll rally liberal white women to vote for him just on the abortion issue.

And just how can you fail to see the connection btwn decline of traditional and Biblical values and the election of proabortion prohomosexual, proIslamic pols? What ideological/religious class has overwhelmingly voted Republican the most in the past few decades? You do not think their pro-life, values are not related to this? All that you voluntarily choose to do is a result of what you truly believe, at least at the moment.

23 posted on 10/29/2023 12:07:43 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212

The fact is you’re not going to reason with a person like her because she has already decided that it’s patriarchal and old fashioned to expect women to be modest and chaste in their relationships.

She does not not see the value in a woman who respects herself enough to keep herself clean and pure. She sees that as being a goody two shoes, a sissy, a fraidy cat, a nothing. She’s sees that as hopelessly laughable and weak. It takes a lot of strength to keep yourself modest these days,

This Amy person sees power and victory in sleeping around and she blames God for making her body able to conceive a child. She never asked to be able to able to conceive, it’s not her fault so leave her alone in her sleeping around and aborting recreational activities.

I’d bet she’s covered in tattoos and piercings, too.

The best you can do if you feel like it is to pray for her and the millions and millions of other women who have been so deceived by the lies of the left that their power is in showing off their bodies and acting like whores instead of their real power being in keeping themselves wholesome and rocking the cradles that will rule the world.

They really don’t get it at all.


24 posted on 10/29/2023 12:10:21 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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To: daniel1212

Every state voted for legalizing abortion when the issue came up on a referendum even in red states.


25 posted on 10/29/2023 12:12:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: CaptainPhilFan
This Amy person sees power and victory in sleeping around and she blames God for making her body able to conceive a child.

I cannot say that of her, but I think I recall that she has seen some negative experiences of unwanted, uncared for and abused children, but which does not justify literally throwing out the baby with the bath water.

26 posted on 10/29/2023 12:14:45 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212

The baby is NOT part of YOUR body! It has its OWN BODY.

YOU spread your legs!

Even if you were raped, how is that the baby’s fault, punishable by DEATH?

You pro aborts make ZERO sense.

Abortion is EVIL!

Abortion is MURDER!

Every woman who has had an abortion is on a bobsled to hell.

Only Jesus can forgive you. Not likely that you will ask.


27 posted on 10/29/2023 12:20:02 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Leaning Right

Entering a conversation with a non believer about abortion is the “ Created” arguing with the “Creator”…….


28 posted on 10/29/2023 12:23:12 PM PDT by delta7
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To: MinorityRepublican

ABORTION IS THE REASON WE ARE A BANANA REPUBLIC NOW!

GOD DOES NOT APPRECIATE HIS GIFTS RETURNED TO HIM UNOPENED?


29 posted on 10/29/2023 12:24:42 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: daniel1212

Behavior is a result of perspective, it’s all perspective. IMO, abortion is a smaller detail of a bigger issue, so my response is not as scientifically direct.

There are 2 kinds of people. The first perceive they live in a bright world, and because of that environment they believe, have faith and trust people. These people have no question about the future and they have no problem doing everything they can to make sure babies live, no matter the circumstance.

The other kind perceive they live in a dark world. As a result, they fear, they doubt and have a terrible need to control others. Existing in a dark world is their excuse to participate in omnicide.

The world is not dark. The future is not bleak. Tomorrow will be a good day.

A dramatization from Monster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbZKbFBdkqc

A dramatization from Signs: https://youtu.be/-dDl7O48Or8?t=36


30 posted on 10/29/2023 12:29:33 PM PDT by conservativeimage (Divorce the Deep State Peacefully: Become a State National - tasa.americanstatenationals.org)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Every state voted for legalizing abortion when the issue came up on a referendum even in red states.

Well then that settles it doesn't it? If all the states vote to kill Jews, or at least affirm homosexual marriage, then you just ignore that as an issue. Then, in future spiritual and moral declension, when gender dysphoria and transitioning is affirmed by a majority then just ignore that as an issue. Then when a social credit system is affirmed by a majority then you just ignore that as an issue. Rather, support for abortion is a result of spiritual and moral declension, and if you give up on a most basic value then you will continue to try to fill other holes in the dike.

When they came for the unborn, I said nothing because I was already born. When they came for and traditional marriage/anti-LGBTQ+ supporters, I said nothing because I did not see how that affected me as a conservative SWM (despite its cost$).
When they came for the evangelicals and all social conservatives, I said nothing because I was only a agnostic fiscal conservative who oppressed excessive government spending.
When they came for all who would not pledge their life and fortune to the government upon whom all are to depend, then there was no one left to speak for me.

31 posted on 10/29/2023 12:31:01 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: stanne

That’s why adoption is always an option


32 posted on 10/29/2023 12:35:35 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: daniel1212

Fair enough. But I’m right in the fact that that is the pervasive attitude among liberal women.


33 posted on 10/29/2023 12:38:38 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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To: MinorityRepublican

ABORTION IS THE REASON WE ARE A BANANA REPUBLIC NOW!

GOD DOES NOT APPRECIATE HIS GIFTS RETURNED TO HIM UNOPENED?


34 posted on 10/29/2023 12:41:36 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: conservativeimage
There are 2 kinds of people. The first perceive they live in a bright world, and because of that environment they believe, have faith and trust people. These people have no question about the future and they have no problem doing everything they can to make sure babies live, no matter the circumstance. The other kind perceive they live in a dark world. As a result, they fear, they doubt and have a terrible need to control others. Existing in a dark world is their excuse to participate in omnicide.

The vast increase in suicides is related to spiritual declension of living Christian faith, and smaller families, plus video games. Death is deceivingly promoted as relief, and end of trouble, versus self-murder being by rational persons being the beginning of the far worse "trouble."

The Christian of Biblical evangelical type faith has a purpose in this life, wherein on the horizontal plane, flowing from the vertical relationship with God, the believer can pray to make a positive difference for time and for eternity in the hearts and lives of people that God brings him into contact with, by the grace of God and to His praise.

35 posted on 10/29/2023 12:44:50 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: faucetman
You pro aborts make ZERO sense....Only Jesus can forgive you. Not likely that you will ask.

Yes, but I hope you are not one of those FR readers who assumes that the poster of an article must be the author of the headline.

36 posted on 10/29/2023 12:47:36 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: faucetman

Emotional opinions abound on both sides, but this is a legal issue. Apparently a majority of Americans wants an abortion option, and theoretically that’s how our laws are made.


37 posted on 10/29/2023 12:49:48 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: daniel1212

“ Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy, but it is consent to the risk of pregnancy. and moral responsibility to such is to be consented to. ”

Kind of the point of heterosexual procreation/ intercourse when you get right down to it


38 posted on 10/29/2023 12:50:23 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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To: bigbob
Apparently a majority of Americans wants an abortion option, and theoretically that’s how our laws are made.

Correct.

39 posted on 10/29/2023 12:52:09 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: thecodont
I remember when playboy and hustler magazines were kept behind the counter under a black barrier.

now days anyone can see it on netflix, hbo, ppv.

So why shouldn't people be willing to hook up anytime anyplace and not care about the consequences?

People are literally bible illiterate!!! Theres no God in peoples lives anymore!.

no God, No peace. Know God, Know peace.

I used to be unable to fathom the amount of blood there was going to be shed in israel. 100's of millions of dead are going to be there on the battle field. But today, I can see all the devils cannonfodder, its walking the streets everywhere.

40 posted on 10/29/2023 1:01:25 PM PDT by Ikeon (I stopped going to my family doctor whenever I felt sick. I've never been healthier. )
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