[Mr Rogers]

If people believe Vattel’s definition of indigenous or native IS THE definition of NBC, they ought to be able to explain why. That the cannot may be why birthers have had ZERO impact on law or elections. At this point, I cannot imagine a less significant discussion...but it ought to at least be an honest one.

[DiogenesLamp]

If people believe Vattel’s definition of indigenous or native IS THE definition of NBC, they ought to be able to explain why.

Perhaps you've missed this. I've only posted it a dozen or so times over the years.

It flat out says it came from Vattel, and it has an excellent pedigree when you look at who was behind it.

The real question is how people came to believe that citizenship law of a Republic was derived from the subject law of a monarchy?

And I know the answer to that too. William Rawle deliberately misled everyone and his book was so successful that he polluted most of the subsequent legal minds into believing his claims.

[one guy in new jersey]

It’s the only definition that actually excludes!

All other definitions leak like sieves.