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To: RoosterRedux
Hitler's idea of socialism was nationalism.

The two were inextricably bound in his view. There was no room for individual rights or indeed for the individual at all.

“The day of individual happiness has passed,” Hitler returned. “Instead, we shall feel a collective happiness. Can there be any greater happiness than a National Socialist meeting in which speakers and audience feel as one? It is the happiness of sharing. Only the early Christian communities could have felt it with equal intensity. They, too, sacrificed their personal happiness for the higher happiness of the community.”......."Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.” - Adolf Hitler

To the Nazis, there could be no true socialism that was not nationalist in character with everybody wrapped up in "the people's community". Sure they would let you continue to manage your factor or small business instead of dropping some party flunkie in to take over who had no idea what he was doing. But woe betide you if you did not do what the government wanted. You were to produce the goods the government wanted and not other goods. You were to produce them in the quantities the government wanted and the prices and your profits would be strictly controlled by the government. The Nazis were absolutely Socialists.

10 posted on 10/22/2023 4:01:29 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird
No. You are assuming that all totalitarian governments are socialist and that is not the case. All socialist systems may be totalitarian, but not all totalitarian systems are socialist.

The difference is, theoretically at least, that in a socialist system, property is owned by the community at large. In strictly totalitarian systems (pure dictatorships), all property is owned and controlled by the government, period.

BTW, Hitler intended to establish at true totalitarian form of government. He only paid lip service to the desires of the people.

13 posted on 10/22/2023 4:15:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: FLT-bird

If you have studied Hitler, you will know that he had his own definition of “socialism” and it didn’t mean what Marx or Lenin intended it to mean.


14 posted on 10/22/2023 4:18:04 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: FLT-bird

Hitler’s idea of socialism was nationalism.
The two were inextricably bound in his view. There was no room for individual rights or indeed for the individual at all.

Sounds a lot like what the democrat party are working on now with all the radical changes.


43 posted on 10/22/2023 8:37:49 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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