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To: MeganC

“At this point their initial war aims have been soundly defeated.”

If this is so, Ukraine can demand peace negotiations from a position of strength.


49 posted on 10/20/2023 2:06:23 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1

Ukraine’s condition for peace is the complete withdrawal of the Ruzzians from Ukrainian territory.


50 posted on 10/20/2023 6:09:35 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: rxh4n1

“If this is so, Ukraine can demand peace negotiations from a position of strength.”

Generally it is the losing side that demands peace negotiations, or the side that lacks confidence in its ability to effectively prosecute its fight. Conversely, a winning side generally demands unconditional surrender.

I don’t think either side is currently in any position to realistically demand either (though one or both might have rumblings about one or the other).

But — and I’ve said this from the beginning of March, 2022 — Ukraine wins by not losing.


65 posted on 10/20/2023 7:05:09 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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