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CDC and Doctors Say Fewer Pregnant Women Getting Vaccines
Epoch Times ^ | 10/18/2023 | Jack Phillips

Posted on 10/19/2023 8:32:26 AM PDT by fireman15

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I apologize if this article is behind a paywall. I have been saying from the time that it became apparent that the Covid vax rollout had been botched, that the loss in trust that was going to result would prevent people from getting vaccines that were important for the public's health. This article is one more indication that this fear was justified.

I had been a lifelong proponent for vaccination programs up until the horribly botched Covid vaccines. Vaccinations once were the gold standard of medical treatment and prevented more illness and saved more lives than all other medical procedures combined.

As a Hazmat Team leader I received more vaccinations than the vast majority of other people, and I actually volunteered to drive a bus to take senior citizens to places where they could get their flu shots and other vaccinations that were important to maintain their longevity. Ultimately, the botched Covid vaccination program will likely kill more people by gutting peoples. trust in vaccinations than the virus ever could.

Even I now think twice even before getting so much as a Tetanus booster. I no longer have any trust in the companies developing vaccines. They have shown their true colors, and it is pretty ugly. As for the people here, who are still pushing the Covid vaccines... I have lost trust in their judgment.

1 posted on 10/19/2023 8:32:26 AM PDT by fireman15
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2 posted on 10/19/2023 8:33:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: fireman15

GOOD!


3 posted on 10/19/2023 8:34:50 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, โ€œSurely I am coming soon.โ€ Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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Vaccinations once were the gold standard of medical treatment and prevented more illness and saved more lives than all other medical procedures combined.

Says the Medical/industrial complex. Get back to me when the studies are in.


4 posted on 10/19/2023 8:36:04 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (โ€œAnd how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: metmom

Sad if they EVER got any CONvid shots.

๐Ÿ”ฌ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜ต๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ’‰๐Ÿ’Š๐Ÿ‚๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ’ฉ. ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ”“!

๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘


5 posted on 10/19/2023 8:39:07 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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To: fireman15

Save the baby humans


6 posted on 10/19/2023 8:39:30 AM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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To: Glad2bnuts

Who trusts studies?


7 posted on 10/19/2023 8:42:32 AM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: fireman15

There’s an old adage:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.


8 posted on 10/19/2023 8:42:45 AM PDT by patriot torch (..)
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To: fireman15

Small Pox was the gold standard. I’d get that one now if I could. Polio, after some trial and error, deserves silver. I am a fan of the Tetanus booster.

Beyond a very short list, they shouldn’t be required for school, and I would favour simply making them available through the school for those who haven’t bothered with a doctor.

I’m highly dubious about the flu (I can still recall my Great-Grandfather and Guillame Barret (Sp.??), and Chicken Pox is, in my opinion, stupid.

We have immune systems. Getting sick occasionally is part of being generally healthy. If Big Pharma was going this out of the generosity of their hearts, I’d be a bit more open. The medical-instrial-govenmental complex is out to look out for its own.


9 posted on 10/19/2023 8:44:26 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: fireman15

There’s an old adage:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.


10 posted on 10/19/2023 8:44:32 AM PDT by patriot torch (..)
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To: BigFreakinToad

My daughter (who just gave birth this morning to her second child) was pregnant with her first child during Covid. She never got vaxxed. It cost her her career as a nurse, but she refused to turn her children into Guinea pigs.


11 posted on 10/19/2023 8:45:33 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: fireman15

People are still getting those shots?
Amazing.


12 posted on 10/19/2023 8:46:20 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (โ€œ99% of failure comes from people who make excuses.โ€ -George Washington)
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The Flu vacc isn’t all that useful for most anyway. IIRC the effectiveness works out to somewhere around 20%. My personal experience is that I have gotten “sick” every single time I’ve bothered to get the Flu shot, and when I haven’t bothered, have had approximately a 1 in 20 rate of actually getting the flu.

The “sickness” from the flu shot is almost certainly my body launching into the immune response to getting hit with three or four different flu viruses (attenuated or dead, it still looks the same to the body), but it puts me down for a couple of days nevertheless. The actual flu, on the few occasions that I’ve contracted it, puts me down for 5-7 days. So for now, to me, the trade off of not getting the flu shot is worth it.

And now that the pharma companies are talking about revamping the flu shot to use the new mRNA technology, I’m even less inclined to have any interest in it. And on top of that, they want to turn the flu shot into a combo shot together with the “covid vaxx” injection. I have no confidence that clinics will disclose that they’re giving the combo shot rather than a flu-only shot, so I’ll be even less likely to consider getting the shot.

My real concern now is that my kiddo’s school says the flu shot is required, and I really don’t feel comfortable taking that risk. I haven’t gotten pushback from the school yet, but I know it’s coming and I’m undecided as to how I will handle it.


13 posted on 10/19/2023 8:49:45 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: fireman15

Good post.

Once trust is lost it is lost forever—and there is no fix.

Almost every major institution in the country has destroyed its reputation with lies—and then more lying about their previous lies.

We are on our own.


14 posted on 10/19/2023 8:50:38 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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Can’t even imagine the horror and shame/guilt that would come with getting a vaccine while pregnant, and having something seriously wrong with the child when born-


15 posted on 10/19/2023 8:51:03 AM PDT by Bob434
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Says the Medical/industrial complex. Get back to me when the studies are in.

This was recognized long before there was a medical/industrial complex. Vaccines eventually eliminated many horrible maladies that killed millions of people a year. Now that we have opened our borders to peoples from countries where these illnesses were never controlled with vaccination programs they are making a comeback here in the USA.

The outcome from a comeback of deadly communicable diseases on a population that no longer trusts vaccines is very predictable. A lot of people are going to be getting very sick and dying from preventable illnesses.

Covid is no longer any more deadly than the flu, 95% of the population here have some form of immunity, and the vaccines in some cases have been shown to have negative efficacy. The more that government agencies promote failed Covid vaccines, the more that they prevent people from getting vaccines that actually have value.

16 posted on 10/19/2023 8:53:31 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Little Pig

This may be a “hard swallow” for you—but you may want to research whether home schooling is feasible in your situation.

The online tools these days are outstanding.

Many families work through their churches to make sure socialization is happening—and help each other through the process.

Change is hard—no doubt—but doing the early research does not force you to make any quick decision.


17 posted on 10/19/2023 8:54:23 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: fhayek

I glad she stood her ground for the sake of her child. It’s unforgivable to put people into making that choice.
I lost my good GP doctor because he refused to take the vaxx.


18 posted on 10/19/2023 8:57:25 AM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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To: fireman15

One analogy is banks.

In many countries in the third world the banks failed and people lost all their money.

Then when those folks move to countries where banks are more sound they still refuse to put their money in banks.

Once you have gotten burned you get super cautious.


19 posted on 10/19/2023 8:59:40 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: patriot torch

I’ve also heard “Fool me once, strike one. Fool me twice, strike three”. I like that one :)


20 posted on 10/19/2023 9:00:09 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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