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Research finds dramatic increase in cranial traumas as the first cities were being built, suggesting a rise in violence
Phys dot org ^ | October 10, 2023 | University of Tübingen

Posted on 10/17/2023 3:26:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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A cranial trauma bears witness of a violent death.
Credit: Joachim Wahl/University of Tübingen
Credit: Joachim Wahl/University of Tübingen

1 posted on 10/17/2023 3:26:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Declining yields / climate change / Bronze Age collapse / my ass.

2 posted on 10/17/2023 3:27:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Or Construction accidents.....


3 posted on 10/17/2023 3:30:13 PM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe they just dropped block in their head…


4 posted on 10/17/2023 3:31:31 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left )
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To: SunkenCiv
They do realize that building things is inherently dangerous right?

Even today the most dangerous jobs in the world are construction jobs and that is with OSHA sticking their noses into every little thing.

5 posted on 10/17/2023 3:31:48 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; G Larry

I was thinking the same thing. An increase in stone laying would do that.


6 posted on 10/17/2023 3:33:53 PM PDT by rdl6989 ( )
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To: SunkenCiv

Modern US urban areas are is a good example of what uncontrolled tribalism creates. The only thing curious is that they think their discovery is groundbreaking. Hobb pointed this out in 1651 when he observed that life during a state of nature as solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.


7 posted on 10/17/2023 3:35:24 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: G Larry

Could be, but still - humans are not ants, FRiend.


8 posted on 10/17/2023 3:37:29 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: SunkenCiv

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

5.56mm


9 posted on 10/17/2023 3:42:18 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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To: thesearethetimes...
Neither are we chimps.

You build buildings you are going to be cutting down trees. Cutting down trees was very dangerous. So much so that an axe head flying off and killing one of your fellow tree cutters was the example given in the Books of the Law for an accidental homicide.

And that was just the chopping. You add in hewing, transportation, lifting and people are going to get hurt. And that is building with wood. Building with stone and brick was even more hazardous.

In contrast with the HG life style you are felling saplings at most. Less chopping, less chance for injury.

10 posted on 10/17/2023 3:47:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Friggin union workers.


11 posted on 10/17/2023 3:53:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (So, when are all these damn "refugees" scheduled to go the hell home? Asking for a friend.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Agreed on the realities of construction, but also, on the realities of living a life way too close, to other human beings, who drive you nuts, FRiend.
Smiles.
May God bless.
Tatt


12 posted on 10/17/2023 3:56:41 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Research finds dramatic increase in cranial traumas as the first cities were being built, suggesting a rise in violence”

A. analogous to experiments of rats packed together in crowded living conditions ...

B. building materials laying about make for impulsively handy cudgels ...


13 posted on 10/17/2023 4:00:22 PM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: SunkenCiv

14 posted on 10/17/2023 4:02:59 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: thesearethetimes...
The problem is that in a HG tribe you are going to be living even closer to other humans and most will be related to you and no one can set you off like family can.

Oddly enough in a city you actually might have a small amount of privacy while in a HG tribe you will have almost no privacy.

Everything will be done in groups as wild animals would be a constant threat. Inside cities you can withdraw to the roof or a storage building or the work area. If nothing else you can be with other people then rather then sitting with the ones who are getting on your last nerve.

15 posted on 10/17/2023 4:05:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: rdl6989; gov_bean_ counter; G Larry
I was thinking the same thing. An increase in stone laying would do that.

Sure.

Blame the Masons...

16 posted on 10/17/2023 4:35:04 PM PDT by null and void (I am fine with liberal cities eating the results of their recipes. H/T ConservativeMind)
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To: thesearethetimes...

I agree with you-I live in a remote rural area, where there is plenty of space-you don’t have to be around someone you don’t like if you choose not to. the properties are all acreage, except for a couple of gated enclaves where only 50-75 well off people can afford to live-or care to, for that matter-I find them to be mostly whiny, self-absorbed city expats who can’t seem to mind their OFB and always argue with one another.

Oddly enough, the neighbor-vs-neighbor incidents involving the sheriff being called-everything from harassment to violence happens most in those enclaves. In my college psych classes, we read about numerous experiments done with animals like rats-they were put in crowded living situations-like humans in big cities, and the results were not good-violence, mayhem, killing, etc. If it isn’t good for rats to live like that, it certainly isn’t good for humans-insects like bees and ants do okay in collectives-mammals not so much-it is unnatural. I’ll bet that was just as true 12,000 years ago as it is now...


17 posted on 10/17/2023 5:06:19 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

As a workers comp case manager, I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to work-related hazards and injuries-it would not account for an increase in serious injury like what is described here-that is more likely to be a result of stress caused by too many humans living in an area with not enough resources or space for that large a group. Many studies have been done on the subject-people do not do well in hives...


18 posted on 10/17/2023 5:15:38 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5
I'm fairly knowledgeable when it comes to work-related hazards and injuries

With bronze age tools?

These cities would not have been hives and living in a tribe would not have been the free and solitary existence you seem to imagine.

The people in the cities would have had more food, more resources, more safety and space then the people in the HG tribes. There was a reason people moved into cities and it was not because they couldn't move their couch.

19 posted on 10/17/2023 5:25:02 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for posting this reality re violence in ancient tribal areas/cities is/was not something new in our history.

https://scx2.b-cdn.net/gfx/news/hires/2023/research-finds-dramati.jpg


20 posted on 10/17/2023 5:28:10 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Flu vaccines, work great if you’ve never had that flu! Otherwise they don't do any good/nor work!!!)
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