Posted on 10/17/2023 9:09:10 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Mass murderers are not just those with vaccines but making money with medicare.
Google: Liverpool Care Pathway, dailymail
Many articles on how the socialists murder people in the hospitals in England. Some 120,000 people murdered every year.
Article from 2012 <—
Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223286/Hospitals-bribed-patients-pathway-death-Cash-incentive-NHS-trusts-meet-targets-Liverpool-Care-Pathway.html
Still killing people in 2023
Elderly and vulnerable people are still being put on an end-of-life ‘death pathway’, hard-hitting report reveals – even though it was officially abolished almost a decade ago
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11821863/Elderly-vulnerable-people-end-life-death-pathway-report-reveals.html
David
It’s fine. I just got caught off guard because of the discussion. Normally yes tho - I do appreciate it .
Bkmk
Not speeding it up. Recognizing the reality and not making people miserable fighting the inevitable.
Reality is obvious, but, when a person is unconscious due to being over drugged, their breathing will be affected. My dad was totally alert the day he arrived, within 24 hours, he was unconscious because of how drugged up they made him. He did NOT have pain.
Not communicating with the family as to what they were going to do with the heavy meds was not ok. Imagine being in that position, where you’re talking with your loved one one night and they put him under and you don’t talk again. Not because of his pneumonia, but because of the drugs. At least communicate!
When my grandmother went in they explained the push button and said they weren’t regulated like the rest of the hospital because she was dying and really nobody was too concerned about hospice patients developing addictions. I have no idea if she was in pain, she wasn’t the type to say. I think she went in 9 days, just long enough for out of town family to get there. The freedom of admitting the trip is over I think takes more of them faster than any drugs. We talked about how relieved she was just by that, no longer having to fight, let nature take its course.
They talked to me a lot. It was like an hour long meeting before we talked to my grandmother about going to hospice. And then we had almost the exact same talk with her. And then another similar talk with the hospice once we moved her over. As is always the case with human institutions they’re run differently, because people are different. My experience was as close to good as having a relative die can be, sorry yours was different. But don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. The hospice concept is good, and when run well it’s much better for everyone involved.
My father was at hospice at home which was awesome. Perhaps because he was a transfer, that’s where the confusion took place, but, I called the center and the nurse before he was taken there. I voiced my concerns beforehand (as indicated here). I feel they betrayed me as they did exactly what I told them I was concerned about them doing.
Your situation sounds much better. And they were fabulous at home. They were pleasant at the center as well, just .. the situation I explained. (My mother and I spent the entire week there day and night) we never left. She had a cot in the room and I slept on a sofa in one of the tv/relation areas. I definitely won’t avoid using them. I’m just fully aware what will occur, regardless of what someone says. I guess we live and learn. But, it will be a guilt I’ll carry for the rest of my days.
Sounds like where my grandmother wound up was just all around better. They had chairs in the room that were convertible to beds. It’s unfortunate your experience was so bad. The end can never be good, but the point of hospice is to make it as not awful as possible.
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