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Report shows blue counties have higher murder rate than red, calls out 'flawed' studies promoted by top Dems
Fox News via Yahoo ^ | October 17, 2023 | Andrew Miller

Posted on 10/17/2023 8:17:51 AM PDT by grundle

A report from the Heritage Foundation shows that homicide rates have been higher in Democrat-run "blue counties" than they have been in "red counties" since 2002 – contradicting a popular talking point recited by prominent liberals like California Gov. and billionaire George Soros.

Newsom has publicly stated that "8 of the top 10 murder states are red" while liberal mega-donor Soros wrote in the Wall Street Journal last year that "violent crime in recent years has generally been increasing more quickly in jurisdictions without reform-minded prosecutors" and "murder rates have been rising fastest in some Republican states led by tough-on-crime politicians."

The problem, according to Heritage Foundation’s Kevin Dayaratna, who authored the report along with former research assistant Alexander Gage, is that studies cited by Democrats to make that argument – including a recent study from Third Way titled "The Two-Decade Red State Murder Problem" – use a "flawed" methodology because crime is a local issue

"It is true that red states have higher homicide rates than blue states, but the problem with this is that crime is a hyper-localized phenomenon," Dayaratna told Fox News Digital. "It doesn't make sense to talk about at the state level. It makes sense to talk about at the local level because that's where the prosecutions occur. The local level crime is handled at the local level by local police, so when you look at this question on a local basis, namely the county level, you'll see that the trend is reversed."

"If you look at the analysis on a state-by-state level, it's 34% higher in red states than blue states, according to the most recent data we analyzed, but then when you look at it as a county-by-county level, it is 60% higher in blue counties than red counties."

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime

1 posted on 10/17/2023 8:17:51 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Yes, what’s up with this? Gavin Newsom said that red states have the highest murder rates. did he distort certain statistics to come to such a conclusion?

Is he saying his liberal paradise in California, perhaps the bluest of all blue states, is a peace loving paradise without crime problems??


2 posted on 10/17/2023 8:20:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (.)
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To: grundle

Democrats hate Law and Order


4 posted on 10/17/2023 8:32:49 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: grundle

Duh.


5 posted on 10/17/2023 8:35:41 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: grundle

If you exclude the major cities over 100,000 in newsom’s calculations he is probably correct that more blue cities have a higher murder rate. This is a SWAG as to the cutoff point but it is common for lawyers and pols to leave out pertinent data and of course “enquiring like minds” of the media don’t ask such questions. /sarc


6 posted on 10/17/2023 8:37:29 AM PDT by Liaison (CTANSTAAFL)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Yes, what’s up with this? Gavin Newsom said that red states have the highest murder rates. did he distort certain statistics to come to such a conclusion?

Yes, of course he did. He compared states. Most of the significant differences come from local policies. When looked at the county level, the result is opposite of what he claims.

A good way to see if someone is lying with statistics, is if they refuse to use all the data available.

It is not hard to look over a data set, find a subset which gives you the result you want, and use that subset for ideological purposes.

In this case, the state data is a subset of the county data, and the county data is a subset of the individual data.

7 posted on 10/17/2023 8:42:44 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: grundle

We’re not a ‘hood (homes regularly sell in here for $600k to a million), but we had a murder in here a couple weeks back. Turns out it was the adult grandchild of a resident that lives down the street from us. A drug deal gone bad up on the main street thru here. Pew-pew...one life over, another in the hospital, another on the run.

Yep...blue county.


8 posted on 10/17/2023 8:49:40 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: grundle

Do gunshot deaths transform into chinese flu government reward deaths still?


9 posted on 10/17/2023 9:40:10 AM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count )
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10 posted on 10/17/2023 11:30:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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