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To: Flaming Conservative

The war is 20 months old. If Ukraine “can’t win”, when will Russia finally “not lose?”


18 posted on 10/13/2023 7:52:47 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: Widget Jr

VIDEO

1. Ukraine hits Russian Buyan cruise missile carrier and Pavel Derzhavin vessel with drones
Kanal13
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10-14-2023 1:43 a.m.EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPtU0BTsulI


19 posted on 10/13/2023 11:44:09 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: Widget Jr

The goal is to inflict as much pain on Russia

To make them go broke


25 posted on 10/14/2023 3:44:14 AM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
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To: Widget Jr

Well lets see - what are the possible outcomes:

1. The Stalemate drags on, thousands more combatants die in pointless trench warfare and urban engagements in the increasingly post-apocalyptic landscape. And eventually (as in so many other situations) a true is agreed to, with new borders reflecting the dug-in positions of both armies.

Russian gains most of the 5 disputed territories it has claimed.

2. Ukraine gets itself together, gets lot of help and in 2024 is able to do what it failed to do in 2023 and push the Russians back into Russia, and maybe beyond.

Russia retaliates with nukes, milions die, life on earth as wek know it ends.

3. Russia gets itself together and takes over whatever it wants, Zelensky is drivin into exile. the USA reluctantly accepts Russia’s peace proposal, wihch includes the terms it started the SMO to enforce. (NATO out of Ukraine, Ukraine de-militarization and de-Nazification, etc)

I don’t see a #4 where Ukraine wins.


29 posted on 10/14/2023 1:10:15 PM PDT by Vlad0
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