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To: NorthMountain
Doesn't have to be that way ... there's a cool new tech that generates ammonia (and oxygen) from water, nitrogen (from the air), and electricity. It's not commercialized yet, but sounds very promising.

(Someone's surely going to chime in with "Yeah, but where does the electricity come from?" ... I never said it was a free lunch [petroleum isn't either, btw] but there are obviously ways to generate electricity that don't involve oil or gas.)

14 posted on 10/13/2023 9:50:25 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Campion
water, nitrogen (from the air), and electricity

It's called "electrolysis of water". Not new, but maybe somebody has found a better ways of doing it. At present, hydrogen is commercially generated by reforming CH4.

there are obviously ways to generate electricity that don't involve oil or gas.

Yeah ... you can fission uranium or plutonium. Everything else is either carbon or solar. And solar is limited to 1 kw/m2 at the top of the atmosphere, at the equator, at high noon.

15 posted on 10/13/2023 9:58:17 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Campion
Doesn't have to be that way ... there's a cool new tech that generates ammonia (and oxygen) from water, nitrogen (from the air), and electricity. It's not commercialized yet, but sounds very promising.

Waste enough money and energy, you can do lots of stupid stuff. Doesn't make the stupid stuff "promising".

20 posted on 10/13/2023 10:07:23 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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