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To: Allegra
This whole world "event" centers on money. As noted in comment # 107 (posted to yesterday's thread to another Freeper):
The links to document the above are there. "The report identifies many prominent investors, including Vanguard Group, Kopernik Global Investors, BNP Asset Management Holding, Goldman Sachs-owned NN Investment Partners Holdings, and Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages Norway's sovereign wealth fund. A number of large US pension funds, foundations, and university endowments are also invested in Ukrainian land through NCH Capital – a US-based private equity fund, which is the fifth largest landholder in the country."

Comment #107, yesterday's thread

Note that the Z-government is participating in this. "In 2020, Zelenskyy gave in to the IMF's demands and finally repealed the moratorium. 'Agribusiness interests and oligarchs will be the primary beneficiaries of such reform,' said Olena Borodina of the Ukrainian Rural Development Network. 'This will only further marginalise smallholder farmers and risks severing them from their most valuable resource.' But the World Bank could barely contain its excitement, gushing: 'This is, without exaggeration, a historic event.'

The point is that Ukraine is being carved into chunks, Putin taking some, and a lot of Western players taking other chunks with the approval (or at least acquiescence) of Zelensky, as profiteering goes on through many means, large and small.

Lots of players, and at many levels. The "little guy," be he Ukrainian, Russian or American, is losing throughout. And the inverse is also true. The "big guys," Ukrainians, Russians, Americans -- and now we add from above -- Norwegians (recalling that Stoltenberg was prime minister of Norway) and others in Europeans, as well as the cottage industry of monetizing "content" which is promoted daily, all come down to money. Few clean hands in this mess.

This is likely why so many dearly want there to be a "white hat" in this "historic event," in the World Bank's parlance. It seems there really isn't.

As observed and documented: "The whole Ukraine goes for sale - massive profit opportunities being created by the war." Modern Diplomacy (EU). Another of their articles is also informative:

The real issue is not about Ukraine – it is NATO and Russia

I post this to you, because I expected the previous interlocutor would ignore it, and thought the content should be further disseminated.
51 posted on 10/08/2023 2:00:30 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Allegra
One also notes that discussion over this tidbit has been avoided:
"A survey of two Kyiv social interviewers, released on September 11, found that 78% of Ukrainians hold Zelensky responsible for corruption in the government. A related poll found that 55% believe that Western military aid should depend on the fight against corruption."

Source: https://censor.net/ua/resonance/3444483/toppomichnykiv_zelenskogo_prodovjuyut_zvynuvachuvaty_v_koruptsiyi_stattya_reuters

Monetized YouTube videos are so trustworthy, and even censor.net was cited until I asked about copyright issues for quoting entire articles. But among the "censor" things this one was not mentioned.

"War and theft" through corruption, as has been noted, is the profiteering.

Source: https://newcoldwar.org/takeover-of-ukraines-agricultural-land/

52 posted on 10/08/2023 2:22:47 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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