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Israel: No one saw this coming?
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Posted on 10/07/2023 7:17:53 PM PDT by jimjohn

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To: kiryandil

“Your “blame Russia” schtick is tiresome.”

I suspect the mods got a bit tired of the BLAME RUSSIA meme and told that bunch to cool it when it came to this attack, as there really are bad things that happen in the world that are NOT Russia’s fault.


21 posted on 10/07/2023 7:28:55 PM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: Williams
In fact it is happening because of...

our absent and perverted leadership under the democrats. This didn’t happen under Trump.

22 posted on 10/07/2023 7:28:57 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: BobL
This will derail future aid for the zElenskyites, almost certainly.

Maybe we can photoshop that famous picture of the anti-Trump protester screaming at the sky into Elensky screaming at the sky.

23 posted on 10/07/2023 7:29:07 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: jimjohn

Holiday weekend on anniversary of Yom Kippur war - like Benghazi all over again


24 posted on 10/07/2023 7:29:39 PM PDT by 11th_VA (<><)
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To: jimjohn

“No one saw this coming”

I pray these won’t be prophetic words to Americans……..”no one saw this coming” because many has seen it coming, right across the southern border.


25 posted on 10/07/2023 7:32:11 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: MNDude

If I ask them, that means every intelligence professional is pondering the same thing.
No way this is completely missed.


26 posted on 10/07/2023 7:32:28 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

“Does Mossad have zero HumInt in Gaza?
Something stinks.”

I doubt that Mossad has any intelligence assets in Gaza as that place is insane. But yes, something does stink. Egypt would be the next country to blame, but I cannot see them doing that with the Sisi government.

About the only credible thing that I can come up with is that it was carried out a country that Israel thought was friendly with them and they used that trust to organize and equip the Palestinians. Not saying it was the Neocons, but it was some country that Israel trusted enough to let them bring in what was needed for the attack.


27 posted on 10/07/2023 7:33:20 PM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: jimjohn

I think you might be over-analyzing the situation. There are always threats. Always.
I would guess that every day Israeli intelligence gets reports of a possible attack here, or a possible attack there.

It’s not always easy to sift out the nuggets of truth from all the background noise.
So did somebody drop the ball here? Or was Hamas just very clever?
Israel will eventually figure this all out. But I suppose we will never know.


28 posted on 10/07/2023 7:35:47 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: jimjohn
Large coordinated movements, hours and hours of training, logistical support, etc.

Flip side, hey guys, lets have night raves near the border. But, our neighbors are dangerous terrorist. No worries. [Weird.]

Very remittance of frontier times. Perhaps, the great raid of 1840 in Texas.

I had better expectations out of the idf outposts and such in frontier areas. Sleeping on guard duty is universally unwelcome.

29 posted on 10/07/2023 7:36:09 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: jimjohn
But SOMEONE had to know SOMETHING was going on.

Mossad seems to be missing. Seems a bit odd.

30 posted on 10/07/2023 7:38:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jimjohn

Now you know the reason for the Ukraine war. We can’t help anybody and Israel is on its own for this war.


31 posted on 10/07/2023 7:39:27 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It never rains in sunny Alberta. It always rains in rainy Alberta.)
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To: jimjohn

No, no one saw it coming. EBS test, dome down, Christian prophets talking about it...quelle surprise! Not like the Israelis would have anyone embedded like our FBI/CIA do with all the different groups. It’s all politics, known and planned. Nice distraction from the banking crisis.


32 posted on 10/07/2023 7:39:33 PM PDT by pops88 ( Helping usher the glory of God into Las Vegas)
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To: BobL

Either way it was carried out successfully by men from Gaza.
They aren’t far right outliers on an IQ distribution chart.
This, if an actual failure, would be way worse than 9/11.
I don’t believe it was a failure. That’s just too many people dropping the ball.

I would be baffled if Mossad didn’t have humint in Gaza.


33 posted on 10/07/2023 7:39:52 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: ClearCase_guy

Give it a rest. The Israelis and arabs have been going at each other since the beginning of time.


34 posted on 10/07/2023 7:40:49 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: BobL

Getting a dozen Rockets into position to undetected to lunch would be a challenge. Didn’t they launch like 500 Rockets? Seems like something those in intelligence would have to know.

Suddenly I got to scary thought. What about the thousands of migrants coming into our country. Do you really think our FBI would keep the American safe if they knew about a massive terror attack in the planning?


35 posted on 10/07/2023 7:41:11 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: jimjohn

“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.”

—Chuck Schumer, aka Nosferatu

He wasn’t wrong. It does seem strange Israeli/US intellignece missed it so completely. Can’t wait to see what they say the after action report turns up. Not saying it applies here, but one of the strange things about massive intelligence failures is that they are usually punished by massive budget increases.

Freegards


36 posted on 10/07/2023 7:42:10 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: jimjohn

We had 9-1-1. They had Yom Kippur in 1973. Things happen.


37 posted on 10/07/2023 7:42:22 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: dragnet2

It’s past a bit odd.
How many IDF and Mossad personnel would have to screw up to miss an op of this size and planning?


38 posted on 10/07/2023 7:43:02 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: kiryandil

“””Hey - at least we grabbed a bunch of 155mm artillery shells from the Israelis”””

No we didn’t, those were American stocks pre-positioned for Middle East use by us.


39 posted on 10/07/2023 7:44:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: BobL

The “russia’s fault “ claims are meme worthy and we could have lots of fun blaming everything from dog bites to bad weather on Russia.


40 posted on 10/07/2023 7:45:37 PM PDT by MNDude
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